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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#2176: Nov 4th 2011 at 5:21:15 PM

Huh. Watching arks badmouth the album prompted more discussion than I expected.

Downloading...

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rumetzen Since: Jan, 2010
#2177: Nov 6th 2011 at 6:40:22 PM

I've already heard this (which I guess is obvious because I suggested it), so let me just say that it's my favorite Ween album. I really like their later stuff better than their earlier, lo-fi albums.

edited 6th Nov '11 6:40:45 PM by rumetzen

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#2178: Nov 6th 2011 at 6:46:17 PM

This... doesn't seem stylistically consistent enough to sum up in one review.

maybe after my second listen, but definitely not now.

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#2179: Nov 6th 2011 at 9:27:44 PM

So, first song is psychobilly.

Second song is some kind of retraux space-age pop.

This is going to be an interesting album.

MikeK Since: Jan, 2001
#2180: Nov 7th 2011 at 10:42:16 PM

I remember I was pretty into this album in 2003, but it's been a fairly long while since I've listened. Will probably do so tomorrow. Personally my go-to Ween album is The Mollusk, by the way.

I can see the first track being called psychobilly, but to me it always seemed like it was specifically a Motorhead tribute, especially in terms of vocal style.

edited 7th Nov '11 11:24:46 PM by MikeK

balrog1911 Since: Dec, 2009
#2181: Nov 8th 2011 at 9:59:36 AM

The first song drew me in. I liked it because it was a bit raw, it had good pace, and sounded like a good intro to an album. Then...the rest, quite honestly, let me down. The vocals in particular often struck me as completely inappropriate to the music being played, which in its own right was never anything special again, nor exciting. Particular standouts in this way were "So Many People in the Neighbourhood," which was atrocious, and "Hey There Fancypants".

If they'd stuck with the style that the first song was in, then this album could've gone over really well with me. Unfortunately, not the case.

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#2182: Nov 8th 2011 at 10:01:23 AM

"So Many People in the Neighbourhood, " which was atrocious

but but but that awesome!

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rumetzen Since: Jan, 2010
#2183: Nov 8th 2011 at 10:04:21 AM

Yeah, I love that song! You liked The Argus at least?

edited 8th Nov '11 10:04:50 AM by rumetzen

MikeK Since: Jan, 2001
#2184: Nov 8th 2011 at 11:52:04 AM

I like this album, but am not sure how well it would function as "entry-level" Ween - it'll be interesting to see more comments from people who are otherwise unfamiliar.

What I didn't know until I saw it mentioned on the trope page is that this was something of a Creator Breakdown album: I didn't pick up on that vibe when I first heard it, but it is a bit more serious and melancholy-sounding than your average Ween album, and "Captain" comes off as very sorrowful despite only having one sentence worth of lyrics.

What I mainly like about this album, and what sort of separates it from their others, is this approach to overdubs they take where a song will start out with pretty simple instrumentation, but they'll keep adding more and more layers as the song goes on - "Happy Colored Marbles" is a good example.

Personal favorite tracks: It's Gonna Be A Long Night, Happy Colored Marbles, The Argus, I Don't Want It

edited 8th Nov '11 12:18:24 PM by MikeK

balrog1911 Since: Dec, 2009
#2185: Nov 8th 2011 at 4:07:13 PM

@Wicked & rumetzen -

Sorry to say I've already got rid of the album. It's just really not to my liking. The first and last songs are really the only ones I could listen to without being annoyed - so that probably answers your question.

I really am trying not to be offensive, there's just something about it that downright annoys me. Can't put my finger on it.

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#2186: Nov 14th 2011 at 2:43:54 PM

This has been long enough.

New album is Are You Experienced by David Lang. Arks suggested it.

edited 8th Jan '12 10:20:04 PM by MetaFour

arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2187: Nov 14th 2011 at 7:29:24 PM

Oh, yay. The album artwork is my avatar. How many albums are left in this round?

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#2188: Nov 14th 2011 at 7:59:46 PM

Including this one, three.

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#2189: Nov 14th 2011 at 10:33:39 PM

I'm pretty meh about Ween to be honest. The first three songs got me pretty excited about the album, as they all sounded completely different but each good in their own way. But then the songs after it all started blending together.

And a bunch of songs feel like... I'm not sure how to say it. Novelty songs. Gimmicks. Filler from a They Might Be Giants album.

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#2190: Nov 16th 2011 at 2:40:10 PM

So, Are You Experienced? is definitely strange, but I think I like it.

The bit in the first track where he says "That felt like a blow to the head! That's twice this week!" made me laugh.

arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2191: Nov 16th 2011 at 8:00:26 PM

That reminds me. i forgot to tell y'all that the first bit of the album is very very quiet, to the point that sometimes I can't tell he's talking at all, so turn up your volume for a bit. Way up. It becomes more normal levels after he talks about the thoughts running through your head. (Meta Four can back me up that I'm not trying to Scare Chord you guys).

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#2192: Nov 16th 2011 at 9:26:41 PM

He speaks the truth.

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#2193: Nov 18th 2011 at 12:08:27 AM

No one else is listening to this?

arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#2195: Nov 18th 2011 at 3:25:32 AM

My headphones are broken right now, so I'm not listening to anything...

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MikeK Since: Jan, 2001
#2196: Nov 18th 2011 at 2:52:09 PM

I'll listen by the end of the day.

MikeK Since: Jan, 2001
#2197: Nov 18th 2011 at 5:29:34 PM

I'm not sure if this is anything I'll keep around or give repeated listens to, but it was interesting. Really dissonant, but in a way that kind of creates a surreal but intense mood. I'm not really into the spoken word elements though, although "On Being Hit On The Head" is pretty funny.

arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2198: Nov 18th 2011 at 7:22:54 PM

Dissonant? How so? If I remember correctly, most of the harmonies are unisons.

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MikeK Since: Jan, 2001
#2199: Nov 18th 2011 at 7:24:16 PM

I do not know anything about music theory whatsoever. I was trying to use that as a smarter-sounding way of saying "ugly" I guess.

edited 18th Nov '11 7:25:36 PM by MikeK

arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2200: Nov 18th 2011 at 7:34:11 PM

What about it did you find ugly? Was it the instruments used? Was it the repeated notes motif? Did that put you off, or was that the part you found interesting?

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