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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#1301: Mar 19th 2011 at 11:10:40 AM

I listened to about half of it, and it struck me as pretty generic post-punkish rock. I don't really like post-punk.

I think I should listen to it again.

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#1302: Mar 19th 2011 at 11:14:37 AM

It was admittedly pretty generic, but it was good at being generic. There's certainly nothing wrong with that. Not in my book, anyway.

Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#1303: Mar 19th 2011 at 5:50:27 PM

....Ziggy Stardust?

Quite annoyingly, I think this may have become my favourite song, but that is possibly due to it's origin rather than it's, quite frankly bizarre, placement here.

edited 19th Mar '11 5:53:12 PM by Drpepperfan

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Saeglopur Resident Hipster from Various places in the UK Since: Jan, 2001
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#1304: Mar 19th 2011 at 6:10:07 PM

Okay, I am listening to Bauhaus. Track-by-track review time.

Question: I'm listening to the original 1982 10-track version. Are other people listening to the re-issued version from 2004 with four extra tracks? If so, I'll find that version and comment on the extra tracks as well.

  1. Third Uncle - This is pretty awesome actually. Solid post-punk, if a little lacking in experimentation. Also, it's a Brian Eno cover. So no comment on the song-writing because it isn't their song. Guitar shreddage is cool.
  2. Silent Hedges - Slightly creepy edge to this one. As expected from these guys, really. This track isn't really doing it for me though, has to be said. Doesn't have the drive or energy of the previous track.
  3. In The Night - Main riff in this one is pretty awesome. Again, vocals are more irritating than anything else. I am enjoying the bass guitar in this, and also the random gear shift in tempo about two minutes in.
  4. Swing The Heartache - Now this I like. Simple, driving, slightly menacing and noisy as hell. Post-punk done well. Reminds me a lot of This Heat.
  5. Spirit - For some reason this track is playing very quietly compared to the last few. Is this deliberate? Feels a little out of place, this one. Not so keen on the "we love our audience!" section, although the squall of guitar noise that comes in towards the end is cool.
  6. The Three Shadows Part 1 - Foreboooooding. Atmospheric. I love it. The deep droney vocals at the end are especially awesome. Doom-laden.
  7. The Three Shadows Part 2 - Continues the atmosphere from the previous track, unsurprisingly. Completely meaningless vocals are unfortunate, because the melody is pretty good. Weird croaking vocals at the end, why?
  8. The Three Shadows Part 3 - Vocals are still meaningless and the atmosphere built up by the previous two tracks is killed stone dead by some wailing and a boring piano led riff. Well done Bauhaus.
  9. All We Ever Wanted Was Everything - This track could well be my favourite. Loving the note-bending bass riff, the acoustic guitar, the chanting vocals inbetween verses and the shoe-gaze-before-it's-time electric guitar. Chorus vocals are... interesting.
  10. Exquisite Corpse - Intro vocals are weird. Reversed cymbal is also weird. Guitar is even more weird. Feck it, this whole shebang is completely strange for the first couple of minutes. Gets very Cure-esque half way through, vocals excepted. And then RANDOM REGGAE SECTION. Uuuh, 'kay. Now descending piano scales, and THE SKY'S GONE OUT. So I'm guessing this is the band letting out their experimental tendencies. And the ending is somewhat abrupt.
  11. Ziggy Stardust - Random cover versions for the lulz! I think it's safe to say I prefer the original. Any particular reason for the vocalist occasionally doing a crap Bowie impression rather than just singing in his own voice? More irritating than anything.
  12. Party Of The First Part - Random sampled clip from an old film or something, I dunno. Random light jazz swing, electric keys and walking bass, but gothed-up and a little bit shifty. This is all very odd.
  13. Spirit - Again. Yes, it's the single version of a track we've already had. Actually sounds a bit nicer than it did last time around, some extra reverb added to the harmonised vocals. Otherwise, nothing to see here, moving on.
  14. Watch That Grandad Go - Best track title on the album. Skronky sax is freakin' sweet. This is like a really twisted Goth version of a 1970s Buddy Cop Show soundtrack. And I mean that in a purely complimentary sense. I keep expecting to be in the front seat of an Audi Quattro, driving down a dark alleyway that happens to be filled with easily destructible cardboard boxes... Best of the bonus tracks by a mile.

Conclusion - 6/10. Far from an unpleasant listen, a little strange in places and the vocals grated slightly on occasion. Got even more odd, if that's possible, in the 2004 re-issue bonus tracks.

Highlights: Third Uncle, The Three Shadows Part 1/2, All We Ever Wanted Was Everything, Watch That Grandad Go

Not-so-highlights: The Three Shadows Part 3, Exquisite Corpse.

edited 19th Mar '11 6:32:26 PM by Saeglopur

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Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#1305: Mar 19th 2011 at 6:14:34 PM

We are indeed listening to the extended version, which included the completely random Ziggy Stardust cover mentioned above. So, um, yay?

And I know! Weren't the last 2 sections of The Three Shadows a massive letdown?! My favourite song, followed up by my least favourite. Laaaaaaame.

Nice music on The Party of the First Part, nice keyboard and bass. Random film dialogue is random though. OK, just looked it up, and apparently it's from a television special by the makers of Rock And Rule called The Devil And Daniel Mouse. It's an animated adaptation of Faust. OK. That's kinda weird. I'm finding my favourite songs are the ones based around the instrumentals, and once again I quite like this one. A bit repetitive and long, and it works best when the dialogue is playing, but nice bassline makes it work. Good.

Spirit: Big improvement on the vocals here! It's like he's channeling David Bowie! David Bowie with The Cure music, awesome! This is good.

Watch that Granddad Go: Holy crap, the bass kicked it up a notch here, check out that bassline! It's performing my favourite style, what I usually call The Centerfold Bass, after my favourite section in that classic 80's tune. This is a pretty good song as well, although the vocals can be kind of irratating and the funky guitar chords are kinda noisy. And let's not mention the saxophone. It's got a cowbell though.

This album was pretty weird. The quality varied a lot, with some of the songs being pretty bad, to others which were pretty good. I'd say the quality overall was kind of average. 1 or 2 songs I would listen to multiple times, but mostly kind of meh. 6.5/7 out of 10

Favourite songs: The Three Shadows Part 1, All We Ever Wanted Was Everything, The Party of the First Part. I guess my favourite songs were the ones that attempted (and suceded) to be atmospheric, which is pretty much what I was expecting when I heard it was Goth Rock.

Least favourite: The Three Shadows Parts 2 and 3, Swing the Heartache.

Hmm, I guess the fact that I completely forgot that I'd listened to a version of Spirit says what I thought about this album....

edited 19th Mar '11 6:38:41 PM by Drpepperfan

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Saeglopur Resident Hipster from Various places in the UK Since: Jan, 2001
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#1306: Mar 19th 2011 at 6:17:05 PM

Yeah, the vocals kinda killed the atmosphere in The Three Shadows. Shame, it started so well...

Anyways, I shall go back and listen the four extended edition tracks and edit them into the previous post.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#1307: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:18:53 PM

Oddly, I'm the Goth here and I never really have liked Bauhaus all that much. Individual tracks can be good, but none of the albums really strike me as good enough overall.

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Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#1308: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:24:27 PM

If so, can you tell me if this is what Goth Rock sounds like in general? I was surprised how punk rocky/new wave-ish it was.

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arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#1309: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:55:00 PM

Okay, I was enjoying this until I got to the bonus tracks (what happened there?).

The album is fun. It has a nice beat for head bobbing and such. Also the tracks are put together very well. The guy might not be the best singer, but his voice meshes very well with what's behind it. The guitars are playing some interesting stuff. The album did drag a bit in a couple of places. Exquisite Corpse took way too long to end and the Three Shadow tracks weren't all that. Overall, though, pretty good.

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steampowered Phonomancer Since: Jun, 2010
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#1310: Mar 19th 2011 at 11:09:00 PM

[up][up] I'm no Morven, but this is what old (70s-80s) Goth sounds like to the best of my knowledge.

As for the album, I didn't like the bonus tracks much either (leave Ziggy Stardust to Bowie,please), but I dug this album as a whole. I like Goth rock a lot when I'm in a certain mood, and this record does a good job of fulfilling that need. "All We Ever Wanted Was Everything" and the opening track were my favorite songs- really atmospheric and cool. The three part suite failed to hold my interest, but "Exquisite Corpse" was badass.

It's no Pornography or Unknown Pleasures, but it's a fun/depressing ride.

edited 19th Mar '11 11:12:58 PM by steampowered

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#1311: Mar 20th 2011 at 12:30:12 AM

It's representative of how early Goth sounded; in many ways Bauhaus were the pioneers. At this point Goth-Rock hasn't happened yet.; it's still too post-punk (it's easy to forget how punk a genre Goth was in its early years). The genre was prone to experiment, for pretension over quality at times, to being at times deliberately challenging to listen to, and having a rather rough production quality which it shared with punk.

Pete Scathe's website on early Goth is a good place to start learning about it. He's self-admittedly weaker on the US scene (which called itself Death Rock at the time, by and large), but it's an interesting read.

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Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#1312: Mar 20th 2011 at 9:42:07 AM

A lot of good discussion on this one, people talking to each other about their opinions, very nice, this was a good pick for discussion! :)

Things seem to have quieted down for now though, so perhaps it's time for another album.

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MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
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#1313: Mar 20th 2011 at 10:24:08 AM

I didn't really enjoy the randomness from this one, but on the whole the good stuff outweighed the bad stuff.

SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#1314: Mar 20th 2011 at 10:26:53 AM

Can we get a new album now?

I am TOTALLY not saying that cuz mine's the only one left.... >_>

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arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#1315: Mar 20th 2011 at 11:17:57 AM

I've got to say there's a few too many post genres these days (and genres in general, especially since after a certain point it becomes hard to differentiate them). Post rock, post minimalism, post modernism, post punk, post metal, you get the idea. I'm pretty sure, though a few hundred years down the line, these centuries will get boiled down to their simplest parts and that will be used to define the music of this time. If we look really close at other centuries, music evolution is actually at a comparable pace to the past.

Random Number Generator says "1", which is Marcus Garvey/Garvey's Ghost, suggested by Spain Sun. That means that Florence and the Machine's Lungs will be the last album of this round. Since Spain Sun has been incredibly eager to get to this point, I will let him get started now.

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#1316: Mar 20th 2011 at 11:39:41 AM

But I like genres. sad

:P

Anyway.

The entire album combo is available on Grooveshark, iirc. So if you can't open zips for some reason, look into that.

Soyeah this is the seminal reggae/dub album by Burning Spear, the first half is original songs, and the second is dub remixes of the first half. A strong case can be made for this being the first remix album ever. I personally prefer the Dub half, though I will not deny that I love the song "Slavery Days".

edited 8th Jan '12 9:01:16 PM by MetaFour

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merton defiance from my heart to yours. Since: May, 2009
defiance
#1317: Mar 20th 2011 at 12:00:26 PM

Man, you guys move fast.

I like this album (the Bauhaus one). Watch this space for a bit and I might even say why!

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Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#1318: Mar 20th 2011 at 12:06:35 PM

[up] Waaaaatches. 0_0

I have no knowledge of Reggae whatsoever, with all my knowledge based on Bob Marley and Pass The Dutchie. Oh, and Dreadlock Holiday. The only thing I know about Burning Spear is that he was in the charity cover of Perfect Day, so this may be pretty interesting.

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#1319: Mar 20th 2011 at 12:07:20 PM

This is rather faster than the second half of round 1, and round 2.

steampowered Phonomancer Since: Jun, 2010
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#1320: Mar 20th 2011 at 12:43:41 PM

Cool. I haven't listen to a ton of either, but I prefer dub to reggae. This should be interesting.

[up][up] Was that the cover that ignored the fact that "Perfect Day" is almost certainly about heroin?

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Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#1321: Mar 20th 2011 at 12:49:20 PM

[up]Possibly. It was for the charity Children in Need, and featured David Bowie, Bono, Elton John, Lou Reed, Tom Jones, Emmylou Harris, the lead singer of the Lemonheads and uh, Boyzone, among many others. To be fair to them, the song is beautiful.

edited 20th Mar '11 12:49:34 PM by Drpepperfan

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#1322: Mar 20th 2011 at 1:01:44 PM

Downloading...

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steampowered Phonomancer Since: Jun, 2010
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#1323: Mar 20th 2011 at 1:04:52 PM

[up][up] Huh. Well, I like most of the artists you mentioned. I'll check it out. Can't miss the point worse than Susan Boyle's cover, anyway.

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SunshineWerewolf Since: Jan, 2011
#1324: Mar 20th 2011 at 1:21:32 PM

Downloading the Burning Spear album. In the meantime, my thoughts on Bauhaus!

I like this album a lot. Partly because it's so eclectic and all over the place - if it's the energetic, driving style that's on Third Uncle, the vaguely prog-rock-ish Silent Hedges, the odd, funky-basslined Watch That Grandad Go, the jazziness of Party of the First Part, or the ambience of The Three Shadows - even the rather BLAM-ish ska section of Exquisite Corpse. In some cases, albums drawing from as wide a range of styles that this one does don't quite go together, but this one does - they manage to tie it all together with a recognisable sound. And, as dodgy as Peter Murphy's vocals can sound sometimes, they do fit with that sound. It's like the vocals and production on the Dingees album - it wouldn't work in a lot of scenarios, but in this one it does, because the style of music allows it. And it allows for a lot of experimentation, which I like.

My favourites of the album were probably Third Uncle, Silent Hedges, The Three Shadows Part 1, and the rather glorious All We Ever Wanted Was Everything, though it's almost all good stuff.

One thing I will say - trying a David Bowie cover? Yeah, that really didn't come off very well. It's probably the one part of the album which really falls on its face (the third part of The Three Shadows wasn't any great shakes either, but it wasn't quite as ew as the Bowie cover).

Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#1325: Mar 20th 2011 at 1:32:24 PM

Fun fact! Looked it up earlier, and apparently Third Uncle is a Brian Eno cover! Decide for yourself which is better.. http://www.whosampled.com/cover/view/87183/Bauhaus-Third%20Uncle_Brian%20Eno-Third%20Uncle/

edited 20th Mar '11 1:35:55 PM by Drpepperfan

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