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SunshineWerewolf Since: Jan, 2011
#976: Feb 19th 2011 at 7:43:56 AM

Zoot Allures - I quite liked it, but for every good thing I found about the album, something else put me off it.. The Torture Never Stops definitely has a bit of a Nick Cave vibe to it, as somebody said, so I could appreciate that. But it just went on a bit too long for my liking. I liked the rhythmic messing-about going on at the end of Friendly Little Finger, but the rest of the song wasn't particularly memorable. Disco Boy was pretty catchy, but not really a style that I liked. Wonderful Wino had a great dirty riff behind it, but the lyrics and vocal style very much put me off it. Black Napkins had some interesting stuff going on, but it just sounded like one of those brief Mars Volta guitar freakouts stretched over an entire track. Wind Up Workin' in a Gas Station was an enjoyable little song, but definitely could've done without the chipmunk vocals...

It seemed like every good song on the album had something or other which was slightly off about it. The less memorable songs didn't have anything wrong with them, but there just didn't seem to be enough to them. The only song I liked and wouldn't really have a complaint about was the title track. That was definitely nice, and quite a welcome change of pace from most of the rest of the album. Nevertheless, it was an enjoyable listen, but definitely not the best I've heard from Zappa.

arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#977: Feb 19th 2011 at 1:38:00 PM

Does anyone else have anything to say about Zudak's comment?

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merton defiance from my heart to yours. Since: May, 2009
arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#979: Feb 19th 2011 at 1:59:43 PM

There's another question as well. What are we going to do about this round? Should we continue with the large list of albums that we have now or drop the ones that don't qualify for this criteria and say "suggest them next round"? Part of what brought this on was the size of this round.

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Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
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#980: Feb 19th 2011 at 2:08:45 PM

I guess we should just finish the round with the albums that have already been accepted, but not accept any other new ones until the round is over.

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SunshineWerewolf Since: Jan, 2011
#981: Feb 19th 2011 at 2:41:22 PM

I'm with Drpepperfan on that.

because I'm pretty sure my suggestion wouldn't be counted for this round otherwise

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#982: Feb 19th 2011 at 3:17:34 PM

I'm not sure I get what Zudak is suggesting...

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
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#983: Feb 19th 2011 at 6:05:11 PM

Fun fact: Zappa's "sleazy 70s porn man" voice is the result of a broken collarbone he suffered at the beginning of the decade. Before that he sounded more like a snarky pissed-off goofster.
Great, now I feel like a jerk for making fun of him.

This album was much better on my second listen. Probably because I skipped most of "The Torture Never Stops" this time. Much as I groused about Zappa's vocal stylings, it was the woman's moans and screams that made the song unlistenable for me.

The rest of the album was okay, but not something I feel any desire to ever listen to again. The vocal songs were filler as far as I'm concerned, and the guitar-focused songs are good but not enough to redeem the album. When I want to hear virtuoso guitar work, there's other albums I can listen to, without annoying vocals. I'm told that Frank Zappa even released some of those, himself. I ought to check them out.

edited 19th Feb '11 6:33:42 PM by MetaFour

merton defiance from my heart to yours. Since: May, 2009
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#984: Feb 19th 2011 at 6:48:57 PM

No need to feel bad for making fun of him; by all accounts he much preferred having the low voice.

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#985: Feb 19th 2011 at 6:56:32 PM

This album was much better on my second listen. Probably because I skipped most of "The Torture Never Stops" this time. Much as I groused about Zappa's vocal stylings, it was the woman's moans and screams that made the song unlistenable for me.

My sentiment exactly.

merton defiance from my heart to yours. Since: May, 2009
defiance
#986: Feb 19th 2011 at 7:03:59 PM

It would interesting to do a survey of fake female orgasms in pop music. 'Cause, I mean, it actually can work sometimes.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#987: Feb 20th 2011 at 5:47:17 AM

I think what Zudak was suggesting was a limited suggestions window for each round.

I'm happy either way. I know I joined this late, and if that means my selection has to wait 'til next round, that's fine.

A brighter future for a darker age.
Drpepperfan So Great, So Powerful. Since: Feb, 2010
So Great, So Powerful.
#988: Feb 20th 2011 at 9:34:59 AM

I'd say it's time for the next album, quite a few people have given their opinions and things have quietened down, it's been abotu 24 hours since a reply.

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arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#989: Feb 20th 2011 at 10:50:45 AM

I was thinking that, too. Random Number Generator says "5", which is Suffocation - Effigy for the Forgotten. This was suggested by Lordnecron. I don't have links yet, so we'll have to wait a bit. In the meantime, keep discussing this window. I want to hear multiple sides.

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Lordnecronus dOOOOM from Wales Since: Sep, 2009
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#990: Feb 20th 2011 at 10:55:39 AM


This post was thumped by the Merciless Hammer of Doom

last.fm | RYM
Lordnecronus dOOOOM from Wales Since: Sep, 2009
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#991: Feb 20th 2011 at 11:23:54 AM


This post was thumped by the Stick of Post Thumping

last.fm | RYM
Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#992: Feb 20th 2011 at 11:36:22 AM

haha okay never mind one track was really all I needed to listen to

edited 8th Jan '12 8:33:19 PM by MetaFour

Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#993: Feb 20th 2011 at 11:43:54 AM

i literally cannot tell these songs apart from each other

Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#994: Feb 20th 2011 at 11:46:41 AM

this is metal of the "here, you tune your guitar as low as it will go and crank the distortion up to max, you wail on the drumset like a chimpanzee on a sugar high, and you growl into the microphone until your vocal chords explode" school of thought.

not at all my thing.

arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#995: Feb 20th 2011 at 11:48:37 AM

Um, Zudak, what's with these double and triple posts?

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Zudak Since: Dec, 1969
#996: Feb 20th 2011 at 11:49:52 AM

I don't know. I just clicked the new post button instead of the edit post button. Sorry about that.

SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#997: Feb 20th 2011 at 1:20:12 PM

I'm sorry I missed out on this album, guys. sad

But a brief note, from now on, my opinions on the album are going to be posted to the new Stuff From Spain's Attic (see sig) rather than here.

I'll probably just drop by to post a link to here when the entries are done.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
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#998: Feb 20th 2011 at 1:37:53 PM

Is the band's name supposed to be ironic? Because it sounds like a brick wall, not like anything that I would expect to suffocate me.

merton defiance from my heart to yours. Since: May, 2009
defiance
#999: Feb 20th 2011 at 3:15:58 PM

Just listened to the album.

I'm pretty sure I just plain don't get extreme metal. Like, there are definitely things going on here—changes in rhythm, different chord progressions, etc—but I can't really figure out what. It seemed to me like each of these songs had 15 different parts, all of which were the same growling and hammering.

So I'm not really going to be able to give this a real review. Maybe I'll learn to appreciate this kind of music someday, but right now it flies completely over my head.

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merton defiance from my heart to yours. Since: May, 2009

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