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rjung He's just some guy, you know? from Fifth and Main (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
He's just some guy, you know?
#1: Nov 12th 2010 at 9:48:27 AM

Mentioned briefly in passing in this thread, what would happen if Deadpool met The Joker? Supervillain team-up? Non-sequiter showdown? Or mutually assured destruction?

Discuss.

—R.J.

edited 12th Nov '10 9:48:58 AM by rjung

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#2: Nov 12th 2010 at 9:52:59 AM

I think Deadpool's supposed to hate clowns.

I like them both, but I prefer the Joker. He's a true timeless classic, while Deadpool feels more like a Flavor of the Decade.

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#3: Nov 12th 2010 at 1:41:08 PM

Deadpool doesn't stand a chance.

FurikoMaru Reverse the Curse from The Arrogant Wasteland Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Reverse the Curse
#4: Nov 12th 2010 at 2:54:33 PM

But Joker's more fettered than Deadpool. He's got dignity.

A True Lady's Quest - A Jojo is You!
KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#5: Nov 12th 2010 at 4:05:10 PM

Assuming I agreed with that (which I don't), why does it matter?

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#6: Nov 12th 2010 at 4:05:17 PM

Double Post

edited 12th Nov '10 4:05:39 PM by KingZeal

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Nov 12th 2010 at 4:07:51 PM

^^ I doubt he was responding to you. And even if he was it wasn't a direct opposition.

edited 12th Nov '10 4:08:05 PM by KnownUnknown

rjung He's just some guy, you know? from Fifth and Main (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
He's just some guy, you know?
#8: Nov 12th 2010 at 4:24:42 PM

Isn't Deadpool indestructible, though?

Deadpool sees Joker.
Deadpool attacks Joker.
Joker retaliates.
Deadpool is indestructible.
???
Profit!

—R.J.

KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#9: Nov 12th 2010 at 4:51:23 PM

More accurately, he regenerates. And the Joker is one crazy bastard.

When the Joker met a similar character in the DC Universe (Resurrection Man), he took delight in killing him over and over.

FurikoMaru Reverse the Curse from The Arrogant Wasteland Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Reverse the Curse
#10: Nov 12th 2010 at 6:04:06 PM

All I mean is that the story would be better if Deadpool did stand a chance, because that's how the character works.

... I'm not explaining this well. Hold on.

Okay, the Joker is crazy in a very specific way; he still has structure to his madness. He does things because they're funny, he's fixated on Batman, and while I grant you my knowledge of him is lacking in many respects, I somehow I doubt he's the sort to laugh off jokes that're on him, or even just sulk about it then move on - he's a serious character who acts unseriously. That's what I mean by dignity.

Deadpool, by contrast, goes both ways; the only reason he isn't an automatic Sue is that he gets his ass handed to him all the time and nearly every person in-comic finds him repulsive - not 'repulsively evil', just 'repulsive', like that pathetic mouthbreather who calls you up to jerk off to your voice on the phone. Bad things happen to him and he usually never gets permanent vengeance for them. In this, he lacks the built-in respect from the universe the Joker has.

Deadpool can't be killed off because his superpower is not-dying; the Joker can't be killed off because he's the fucking Joker. Obviously if you want to talk long-term, on a reasonable playing field, Deadpool is going to win.

But that's not interesting.

If you want to talk short-term, on a truly open playing field, the Joker is going to win.

But that's not interesting.

If you want to talk within the constraints of an official crossover, then no shit they'll tie, and both sets of extreme fans will whine about it, and that is incredibly uninteresting.

But at least in the last scenario the story has potential beyond fan-baiting.

(Damn typo.)

edited 13th Nov '10 1:56:53 PM by FurikoMaru

A True Lady's Quest - A Jojo is You!
KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#11: Nov 12th 2010 at 8:17:00 PM

Meh. You change the playing field too much and it's not Deadpool vs The Joker. It's "Deadpool on the Prophecied Day When The Stars Are Aligned In His Favor And His Opponent Inexplicably Has A Head Cold" vs The Joker.

Also, it would take a particular kind of talentless hack to make Joker vs Deadpool fucking uninteresting. This isn't Daredevil vs Azrael; it's two characters who are well known for being interesting on their own. Even if Deadpool got his ass completely kicked two ways from Sunday, any writer who halfway understands him (such as Joe Kelly, Peter David, or Fabian Nicieza) would still make his defeat utterly High-larious.

FurikoMaru Reverse the Curse from The Arrogant Wasteland Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Reverse the Curse
#12: Nov 12th 2010 at 9:01:24 PM

Perhaps we have different conceptions of what constitutes an interesting fight.

A True Lady's Quest - A Jojo is You!
KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#13: Nov 12th 2010 at 9:10:06 PM

I think that would be apparent. It's impossible to please everyone.

ThatOtherGriffin Since: Aug, 2010
#14: Nov 13th 2010 at 3:15:03 AM

Wait, are we talking about the comic book version of the Joker, or The Dark Knight version of the Joker?

edited 13th Nov '10 3:15:20 AM by ThatOtherGriffin

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Nov 13th 2010 at 3:48:14 AM

Deadpool sees Joker.

Deadpool attacks Joker.

Joker retaliates.

Deadpool is indestructible.

???

Profit

I doubt it would be that simple. With the Joker, it never is. Why would Joker directly attack someone when he could play them instead?

Counterclock Since: Feb, 2013
#16: Nov 13th 2010 at 3:57:59 AM

edited 23rd Nov '10 8:56:39 AM by Counterclock

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#17: Nov 13th 2010 at 6:19:49 AM

Joker and Deadpool! A nut and a fool!

edited 13th Nov '10 6:20:27 AM by Nightwire

rjung He's just some guy, you know? from Fifth and Main (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
He's just some guy, you know?
#18: Nov 14th 2010 at 9:55:44 AM

Deadpool agreeing because he's Deadpool

At least until it remains amusing. Once he gets bored of it...?

—R.J.

edited 14th Nov '10 9:55:59 AM by rjung

Maridee from surfside Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#19: Nov 14th 2010 at 1:41:45 PM

And Deadpool will hit on Harley.

ophelia, you're breaking my heart
KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#20: Nov 14th 2010 at 1:53:42 PM

He's the Crown Prince of Crime, whose intellect is only equaled by his insane instability. He's the Merc With The Mouth, whose pure combat prowess is equaled only by his...er, insane instability.

They Fight Crime!.

edited 14th Nov '10 1:54:17 PM by KingZeal

stutebaker Since: Dec, 1969
#21: Nov 14th 2010 at 2:53:48 PM

Thier proximity to eachother would cause thier fourth wall breaking madness to feed off eachother and thus cause the fabric of reality to become unravelled and thus dooming all of creation.

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
#23: Nov 22nd 2010 at 1:57:05 PM

After his 300th teleporter malfunction Wade "Deadpool" Wilson ends up on a cobble stone road leading to the city of Gotham when the Joker pops out of a man hole cover, after escaping from the Arkam Asylum(again). Deadpool assumes that Joker is a plumber version of Jesus here to save the world from the coming of Satan and Joker mistakes the babbling of a confused, insane mercenary to be attempts at humor, finds Deadpool funny and makes a joke about helping him save the sinners of Gotham down the road.

Deadpool could never say no to plumber Jesus and tags along. Joker starts shooting random pedestrians causing a massive car accident and asks if Deadpool wants to try. He does but then remembers that he's supposed to be a super hero now and that the traditional western portrayal of Jesus is not what he really looked like, so he shoots the Joker. Deadpool is celebrated as a hero, and his punishment for unprovoked manslaughter is reduced to two weeks of community service.

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Maridee from surfside Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#24: Nov 22nd 2010 at 6:07:43 PM

Is Joker in a Mario costume?

ophelia, you're breaking my heart
zam Since: Jun, 2009
#25: Nov 23rd 2010 at 1:25:05 PM

[up][up]Win

Though in a real crossover The Joker wins sadly.


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