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shiroookami Since: Apr, 2009
#176: Apr 4th 2010 at 2:00:40 PM

There is only a price to transfer a soul into a body if the soul is dead or the body already has a soul in it (in Dante's case). If the soul is living and transfering into an empty vessel it should satisfy Equivalent Exchange.

Anyway, my memory must be hazy. I forgot about the problems with Nina's body being stable, but I thought those mannequins were Majihal's synthetic bodies.

edited 4th Apr '10 2:03:08 PM by shiroookami

shiroookami Since: Apr, 2009
#177: Apr 4th 2010 at 2:01:38 PM

Double-post by mistake. Sorry. tongue

edited 4th Apr '10 2:02:40 PM by shiroookami

silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#178: Apr 4th 2010 at 2:05:31 PM

There is only a price to transfer a soul into a body if the soul is dead or the body already has a soul in it (in Dante's case). If the soul is living and transfering into an empty vessel it should satisfy Equivalent Exchange.

I assumed that it was transferring the soul that was Dante's problem, not dealing with the soul already in the body. Admittedly, I don't remember any clear evidence for either interpretation.

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amarielah Since: Jan, 2001
#179: Apr 4th 2010 at 2:19:38 PM

There is only a price to transfer a soul into a body if the soul is dead or the body already has a soul in it (in Dante's case)

Really? All the evidence points to the contrary. Unless you're going by manga canon, anyway.

The reason why they used Lab 5 for all the government experiments, for example, was because they needed both test subjects and sacrifices. Alphonse gets the ability to transfer his soul into suits of armor in The Movie, but that was only after he'd used up the entire Stone on getting his body back and healing Edward.

Human chimeras are only partially successful unless they're done under the conditions of Lab 5, which implies that even that requires some kind of sacrifice.

And, again, they would have still had to create the synthetic body in the first place, which in anime canon was shown to be impossible without either the use of the Stone or an immense sacrifice.

So Yeah. I still don't see the plot hole.

edited 4th Apr '10 3:08:44 PM by amarielah

Scisless What's That Zach? from The End of Time Since: Apr, 2009
What's That Zach?
#180: Apr 4th 2010 at 2:26:09 PM

The entire second season of Digimon is one wallbanging wasted bit of potential after another.

edited 4th Apr '10 3:01:56 PM by Scisless

amarielah Since: Jan, 2001
#181: Apr 4th 2010 at 2:29:19 PM

I only feel this way about the last ten episodes of 02.

edited 4th Apr '10 2:29:42 PM by amarielah

Scisless What's That Zach? from The End of Time Since: Apr, 2009
What's That Zach?
#182: Apr 4th 2010 at 3:02:28 PM

Actually anything past the Digimon Emperor arc.

Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#183: Apr 4th 2010 at 3:05:19 PM

But Blackwargreymon is awesome sad

edited 4th Apr '10 3:08:18 PM by Noimporta

amarielah Since: Jan, 2001
#184: Apr 4th 2010 at 3:07:00 PM

I think there were some really great episodes after the Emperor arc, and I actually liked Arukenimon as a minor antagonist. For me, the real waste started after the defeat of Daemon. As far as I'm concerned, either Millenniummon or Dagomon should have turned out to be the Big Bad, and Oikawa should have just been a subplot. Meanwhile, Miyako and Iori should have been given more character development and screentime.

edited 4th Apr '10 3:08:14 PM by amarielah

G.G. Since: Dec, 1969
#185: Apr 4th 2010 at 8:02:29 PM

Also, Malo Myostismon looks like a fish the guy should had died in Season 1 and stayred that way.

shiroookami Since: Apr, 2009
#186: Apr 5th 2010 at 1:36:51 PM

Kenpachi vs. Nnoitra and Ichigo vs. Ulquoirra in Bleach. Every other fight in that series made at least some sense.

Ever since Ichigo vs. Kenpachi ended in a draw, Ichigo had taken two levels in badass to barely beat Grimmjow. When Nnoitra, who's just one rank higher than Grimmjow shows up, Kenpachi pulls a Big Damn Heroes for the worn out Ichigo. But does Kenpachi show up that he Took a Level in Badass by learning the name and abilities of his Shikai? No, instead he beats Nnoitra by using two hands.

Then there was the Ass Pull of Ichigo's Hollow form somehow getting more powerful. Aizen even lampshades this when he summarizes each fight Ichigo had and how they brought out latent powers that he used to win, but when Aizen gets to his last fight with Ulqoirra, Aizen just said that he "somehow" got more powerful.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#187: Apr 5th 2010 at 1:43:41 PM

^It's less of Ass Pull and more of something which hasn't been fully explained yet. Tousen pulling a Resureccion, which has several similar aspects, goes towards explaining it.

And you made a list of Bleach Wallbangers without including Yammy 0, which not only came completely out of nowhere, but is difficult to reconcile with his earlier interactions with Ulquiorra, and undermined most of the  *

characterization Yammy had. That knocks down your credibility quite a bit, in my eyes.

edited 5th Apr '10 1:48:05 PM by Gilphon

K*SPAM from Control Room Since: Oct, 2009
#188: Apr 5th 2010 at 2:03:08 PM

I can defend (or at least try to defend) just about every supposed Ass Pull in Bleach. The only exception: Yammy. Came out of freaking nowhere and had little to no importance to the plot.

edited 5th Apr '10 2:03:51 PM by K*SPAM

A_H_R Resistance is Futile from Crevice of your Mind Since: Feb, 2010
Resistance is Futile
#189: Apr 5th 2010 at 2:04:12 PM

I agree. Reading it as a stand alone issue actually had it make more sense than when I perused the entire series up to that point.

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G.G. Since: Dec, 1969
#190: Apr 5th 2010 at 5:55:06 PM

How is it that you already have even cooler characters than the Hero yet it is always the Hero that wins? You expect me to believe that the Hero who beats up some random guy is going to be their friend?

Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#191: Apr 5th 2010 at 6:03:41 PM

Could you reword that in a more intelligible and preferably specific way?

silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#192: Apr 5th 2010 at 6:12:58 PM

I have similar feelings about Naruto and the Great Snake Escape.

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#193: Apr 5th 2010 at 6:28:16 PM

Oh yeah. K*SPAM's attitude towards Yammy 0 perfectly describes mine towards the Great Snake Escape. It was a complete and total Deus ex Machina to let Sasuke survive Deidara's final attack, and I won't let anyone say any different.

G.G. Since: Dec, 1969
#194: Apr 5th 2010 at 8:24:59 PM

@Noimporta, I will give my best shot. Why is it that the Hero is most shonen anime turn out to the strongest or the best of all of warriors while there are even more capable warriors than the Hero?

K*SPAM from Control Room Since: Oct, 2009
Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#196: Apr 6th 2010 at 8:00:03 AM

I want to write a shonen manga only so I can subvert the cliché'd tropes. tongue

Oh well. While Ippos "HURR FIGHTING SPIRIT I WON'T GIVE UP" schtick is as annoying as it always is, at least he's also presented as a genuinely skilled boxer who really has an unfair amount of punching power. That, and he lost once.

amarielah Since: Jan, 2001
#197: Apr 6th 2010 at 9:19:52 AM

@ GG

Doesn't this complaint apply to most action-based media in general?

InsanityAddict Bromantic Foil from Out of the Left Field Since: Oct, 2009
#198: Apr 6th 2010 at 11:17:24 AM

It turns out that way because the hero is focus of anime or manga work where he shows up in so imagine him constantly being worfed while readers or viewers is supposed to identify with does not work.

I know what you said, sugar, but 'platonic' still entails a world of ideas.
OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#199: Apr 6th 2010 at 11:29:14 AM

Also, if the hero is constantly overpowered by a co-star or rival, fandom won't stop complaining about Boring Failure Hero.

I mean, just look at Naruto fans who hate Sasuke and how he overshadows the lead himself.

Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#200: Apr 6th 2010 at 11:46:38 AM

It turns out that way because the hero is focus of anime or manga work where he shows up in so imagine him constantly being worfed while readers or viewers is supposed to identify with does not work.

Kaiji begs to differ.


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