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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#26: Jan 19th 2011 at 4:37:42 PM

For some reason I've never wondered this before, but why aren't his pants on fire?

edited 19th Jan '11 4:39:31 PM by Clarste

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#28: Jan 19th 2011 at 4:48:17 PM

So it's changing, but it's changing to simply increase the lead of the one that's already on top.

Make the change on the page, and put the others on the ImageLinks.Jet Pack page.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#29: Jan 19th 2011 at 8:53:02 PM

The pic's been switched, but it's way too late to get into trying to move all the other pics.

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#30: Jan 19th 2011 at 10:13:43 PM

OK, I'll lock the crowner, but leave the thread open til it's done.

edited 19th Jan '11 10:14:09 PM by Madrugada

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#31: Jan 20th 2011 at 5:59:08 PM

"I'd actually disagree on that. Cropping out the plane would ruin the composition, and make one of the other images a better choice, probably." - sudenim

Also, you'd need to either rotate the image about 45 degrees (not sure how you could do that without distorting the image) or remove enough of the upper part of the image to get Betty Page out of the picture.

EDIT: See next post for the "cropping" approach. (Probably should have put the image in this post but oh well...)

edited 20th Jan '11 6:05:50 PM by neoYTPism

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#32: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:03:20 PM

Anyway, here's my attempt at the "cropping" approach. It worked a bit better than I expected, seeing as how Betty's right high heel (her right, our left) isn't as noticeable as I thought it would be. I'd say use the following for the page image instead:


some caption text

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#33: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:12:48 PM

Similar crop with plane painted out completely:

(Tried the "rotate" thing, didn't like it.)

edited 20th Jan '11 6:16:28 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#35: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:21:52 PM

Although... I think it is kind of shady to replace an image in the crowner with something significantly different. It isn't just sharpening, or something; that isn't the image people voted on. The Rocketeer "racing a plane" is possibly an important element.

Objections? That is, is it okay to use the cropped-and-plane-painted-out image, instead of the uncropped/unedited one? Or should the crop be added to the crowner?

edited 20th Jan '11 6:25:23 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#36: Jan 20th 2011 at 6:50:04 PM

Never mind. I had already locked the crowner. You waited too long, neo.

edited 20th Jan '11 6:51:06 PM by Madrugada

suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
#37: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:49:20 PM

I do object (or would have objected, I guess), FWIW. The plane, and the artistic composition of the image, were big factors in my support for that particular image.

edited 20th Jan '11 7:49:48 PM by suedenim

Jet-a-Reeno!
neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#38: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:53:41 PM

Thing is, the current image has a woman in lingerie in it, which is unnecessarily NSFW for a trope that for that matter has nothing to do with fanservice. My cropped version of it leaves in the entirety of the person with the jetpack while removing most of the image of said scantily-clad woman. I think it's pretty obvious which is better for the page.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#39: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:56:31 PM

I also object. The bait and switch seems shady to me. The crowner image won. Not this new crop. I like the plane in the background and I don't see anything wrong with period accurate artwork in the background.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
#40: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:56:32 PM

[up][up]Only if you assume it's actually NSFW, which, by my understanding, it isn't, according to current policy.

edited 20th Jan '11 7:56:53 PM by suedenim

Jet-a-Reeno!
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#41: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:58:04 PM

[up] Exactly. There's no nipples. No front bottoms. She's actually rather well covered. I wouldn't mind the thin border around the image chopped off, but that's a far cry from changing the image entirely as you seem intent on doing Neo.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#42: Jan 20th 2011 at 7:59:57 PM

If you wish to submit the cropped image to the crowner, do so, but don't modify existing ones.

edited 20th Jan '11 8:00:08 PM by INUH

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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#43: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:11:07 PM

"If you wish to submit the cropped image to the crowner, do so, but don't modify existing ones." - INUH

But as Madrugada pointed out, it's too late for that.

Perhaps its NSFW status is somewhat disputable, but it's still better to go with something a little more... clean. At least when the somewhat-questionable image is of no apparent relevance. My crop of the image focuses on the guy in the jetpack without having said questionable image... what is better about the current one in and of itself?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#44: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:12:36 PM

It's more dynamic. It shows the idea of flight better. It has a better composition. It looks better. It's a better representation of both the period and the trope. It's also not over dramatic censorship for the sake of over dramatic censorship. Honestly, that woman is wearing more than most bikinis cover. You can't even see her navel. It's just puritanical to censor something that mild. It's such a part of history.

edited 20th Jan '11 8:14:12 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#45: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:19:38 PM

Well, now we're getting somewhere. It's at least refreshing to see something that isn't primarily appeal to majority.

In any case, I still don't see why my crop of it removes the sense of flight. I can see why rodney's edit of it does, but my version clearly shows the tail of the plane moving. I'd just like to get into what specifically "looks better" about it, and how exactly it's such "a part of history."

Oh and by the way, I wouldn't support an image that involved a bikini either.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#46: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:24:11 PM

It's not clear that's a plane from just the rudder. It looks a bit more like a boat honestly. It's just uncertainness censorship that makes the image worse. Pin up girls on planes dates the image to being set in WWII. That's a nice feature.

edited 20th Jan '11 8:26:53 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#47: Jan 20th 2011 at 8:28:03 PM

[up]Last two sentences FTW.

edited 20th Jan '11 8:28:13 PM by BlackWolfe

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#48: Jan 21st 2011 at 5:17:01 AM

Gotta Echo what's been said, loosing the plane detracts from the image, the combination of the two made it stunning. And nothing particularly NSFW on it. Worst case scenario, flag the page on the NSFG side of wall. Problem solved.

Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#49: Jan 21st 2011 at 6:27:21 AM

I don’t agree on Ghilz idea of putting Jet Pack on the NSFG side. It does not belong there. Would this be necessary when using the Betty picture?

Before doing that we should use a different picture. Or changing it maybe removing the pin-up girl and not the plane? This will keep the overall composition, but still be clean enough for everybody’s taste. Then we should put a link to the original, pointing out that we changed it.

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#50: Jan 21st 2011 at 7:39:19 AM

1. The Betty Page pin-up is not sufficiently lascivious to warrant an NSFW tag or for the page to be put on the other side of the curtain. Period. End of subject.

2. The image that got the votes was the one including the plane and the plane's artwork. In light of #1, there's no reason to do a bait-and-switch by putting up a bowdlerized version.

The crowner is closed. It was closed before this last round of suggestions.

ImagePickin: JetPack
20th Apr '10 12:00:00 AM

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