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Anarchy just a medicine seller from Perak, Malaysia Since: Jun, 2010
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#201: Jul 8th 2010 at 7:33:50 PM

Pika T, I suspect that you didn't even read the opening post. I quote:

"Apparently the general claims I hear is he hates gay people, is awful to people at cons and is generally a Fundamentalist Christian.

Having not been born yesterday, I suspect this is largely exaggeration and I just curious if anyone can fill me in on what the source of all this hate is?"

Nikkolas was just curious. He doesn't REALLY think that Mignogna is a homophobic bible-thumping asshole. He was exaggerating what he heard from other people on purpose.

edited 8th Jul '10 7:34:19 PM by Anarchy

PikaHikariKT Since: Jan, 2001
#202: Jul 8th 2010 at 7:35:49 PM

Gomen ne...sad

edited 8th Jul '10 7:37:51 PM by PikaHikariKT

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#203: Jul 8th 2010 at 8:43:03 PM

I don't want to think it's true but then again I fear it may be true.

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#204: Jul 8th 2010 at 8:45:07 PM

...How did this get so much attention?

On the topic at hand, I'm dubious as to the validity of this claim. He seems like a nice enough guy. That and no one who voices Alucard the way he does could possibly be anything but the incarnation of all that is good.

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PikaHikariKT Since: Jan, 2001
#205: Jul 8th 2010 at 8:45:49 PM

Wait, Alucard? That's not Vic, that's Crispin!

Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
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#206: Jul 8th 2010 at 8:46:49 PM

Yeah, and Crispin Freeman is awesome. So he was right, he was just wrong about who played him.

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#207: Jul 8th 2010 at 8:48:18 PM

WHOOPS. For some reason, I was under the impression this was about Crispin. I must've hit my head real hard...

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#209: Jul 8th 2010 at 8:52:20 PM

I hope he's not Him and Jonhy Yong are like my VA idols, If he is I'll ...

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SirPsychoSexy The Sensui Fan from Texas Panhandle Since: Jan, 2010
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#210: Jul 8th 2010 at 9:42:41 PM

As I said, I Take a Third Option.

I don't like his fandom, and I don't like his hatedom.

I'll just sit around and make jokes about "if ego and penis size were inversely correlated, Vic would be hung like a raisin".

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JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#211: Jul 9th 2010 at 11:02:17 AM

Its not a standpoint that I agree with or think is rational, and his understanding of what an actor does is different from mine

I will agree that my position isn't entirely rational. Really, mostly it's about not having to have the dissapointing "oh, wait he's straight outside the role" moments, and dislike of using gay roles as Oscar Bait.

But I would certainly not require it by law! That would just absurd. I just would personally prefer to watch movies and series with gay actor for gay roles, and boycott movies and series with gay roles given for actors who are unsympathetic to gay people.


And to counteact the seriousness, back on the Ouranwank. I don't know about the Manga, I haven't read it. In the Anime, Mori -> Hani is given some strong support, and there isn't any female interest for Hani. And the Kyoya -> Tamaki thing is teased a lot, and left to interpretation. Mostly, I just hope that the show isn't gonna pull the carpet under the fans and go LOLJK THEY'RE ALL STRAIGHT. Because I would find that a bit offensive. Haruhi's dad is treated with some respect,s ure, but other than that, doing that would leave the oonly LGBT characters to be the silly transsexual, and the villanous lesbian Zuka club, which would be really deppressing.

[ed.]

Yup! And the whole thing is a parody of shoujo tropes anyway.

Well, an Affectionate Parody, it would seem.

edited 9th Jul '10 11:10:37 AM by JethroQWalrustitty

Anarchy just a medicine seller from Perak, Malaysia Since: Jun, 2010
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#212: Jul 9th 2010 at 12:50:54 PM

"LOLJK THEY'RE ALL STRAIGHT"

This is pretty much the mangaka's feelings about it, I believe. But since it's her work, I respect her right to do whatever the heck she wants with it. I really need to watch the anime sometime though.

And yes, it's definitely an Affectionate Parody.

About the actors playing gay characters thing, I would strongly dislike an actor who does a gay character as a negative gay stereotype, regardless of what sexuality or gender the actor is. Meh, but if the show's good enough, I'd still watch it. Depending on how offensive the stereotype is.

That said, I'd still like straight actors and gay actors alike to play gay characters, and for gay actors and straight actors alike to play straight characters. As I said, if you're a decent actor, you should be able to handle it properly. I don't think your sexuality should stop you from auditioning for roles. Also I try to never conflate the character with the actor. Maa, that's my personal opinion. As a student myself I adore playing characters whom I'm not, including characters who are of a different sexual orientation than I am, so.

EDIT: But then you get awesome moments like finding out womanizer Barney is actually a laidback gay guy in real life.

edited 9th Jul '10 12:53:06 PM by Anarchy

SirPsychoSexy The Sensui Fan from Texas Panhandle Since: Jan, 2010
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#213: Jul 9th 2010 at 5:04:51 PM

As a student myself I adore playing characters whom I'm not, including characters who are of a different sexual orientation than I am, so.

Agreed.

I like RPing pervy straight guys. I think it's fun.

edited 9th Jul '10 5:05:25 PM by SirPsychoSexy

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emperorzaige Emperor Zaige Since: Dec, 2009
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#215: Oct 13th 2010 at 5:13:15 PM

I think that statement is probably a bit extreme. From what I have heard and seen of him though, I don't like him. He seems to be against slash. It is one thing to not like or support percieved homosexual pairings in anime. It is another to be against them. People should have a right to ship who they want.

toalordsothe Not a Dong from Hell, Michigan Since: Oct, 2009
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#216: Oct 13th 2010 at 5:18:16 PM

@ the topic title.

No.

CAUSE EVERY GIRL IS CRAZY 'BOUT A SHARP DRESSED MAN
Zeether Knight of Legend from Mahora (I wish) Since: Jan, 2001
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#217: Oct 13th 2010 at 5:29:32 PM

The video is proof enough, so if anyone else decides to say Vic shoves his religion down peoples' throats I will link that.

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Jordan Azor Ahai from Westeros Since: Jan, 2001
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#218: Oct 13th 2010 at 5:35:16 PM

I watched the video, and he really seems like a nice guy. He's clearly very religious, and while I don't share his beliefs, he certainly doesn't express them in an offensive way.

I wonder if people are confusing some of his characters (who might be assholes) with him.

Hodor
Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#219: Oct 13th 2010 at 5:36:42 PM

Proof that he's harmless?

Meh, haven't seen the series, but methinks maybe you lot take "subtext" too far.

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Shadowtext Trickster God from the noosphere Since: Jan, 2001
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#220: Oct 13th 2010 at 6:55:22 PM

Haruhi's dad is treated with some respect, s ure, but other than that, doing that would leave the oonly LGBT characters to be the silly transsexual, and the villanous lesbian Zuka club, which would be really deppressing.
Haruhi's dad isn't that silly. He's silly compared to Kyouya, maybe, but he's at least as well-adjusted as, say, Tamaki's father. Not that that's saying much.

And the "villainous" Zuka club aren't really guilty of anything the Host Club isn't, other than not being seen from a sympathetic POV. I think the creator admitted as much.

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#221: Oct 13th 2010 at 7:03:47 PM

CLAMP: It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye.

Then it's a ship.

Seriously, I'll buy that Ed's straight. I'll buy that he could conceivably be an angry-at-god Hollywood Atheist, though I like to think Arakawa-sensei has more class than that.

But CLAMP are manga-same-sex-intimacy's patron goddesses. When they put a male character in a furisode, that's barely subtext anymore.

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Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
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#222: Oct 13th 2010 at 7:42:58 PM

^Agreed. Personally, I think saying he's a "homophobic Bible-thumping asshole" is way untrue, but I feel I'm not exaggerating in the slightest by saying that he seems pretty uncomfortable with homosexuality.

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#223: Oct 13th 2010 at 8:09:43 PM

So long as he doesn't start foaming at the mouth about it, is it a problem?

"He could not know it. For it was not all a joke."
Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
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#224: Oct 13th 2010 at 8:12:45 PM

I'd say it's not a problem. He's not going to be able to deny all the Yaoi stuff with his newest role, though, at least not without losing any credibility he may have had left among the Yaoi Fangirl crowd still willing to put up with him (in all likelihood a pretty small group). With all the other shows he's done, it's a possibility his characters were straight, but this time around, it's literally canon (from what I've heard).

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Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#225: Oct 13th 2010 at 8:15:56 PM

...Which role did he get now?

I've seen Hetalia. Heterosexuality only enters the picture with Hungary and Belarus.

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