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I'm guessing you mean, not in a comedic way...because this tends to happen a lot.
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Is Ooo really going to be eventually turned into a wasteland It didn't look like a wasteland in the future, it just looked like a different color palette.
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I believe the other villains (save Ricardio) did in fact appear, but only very briefly. That really was my biggest complaint. They set up all these villains from the show and they do absolutely nothing, especially seeing as how the second to last episode promoted them so much.
Still, this was an awesome episode and possibly the best finale to an animated show I’ve ever seen. It works because we DO in fact get to see an epic battle with all the characters, just not like how we thought. It’s great to see everyone so happy in the very last scene. I’ve gotten over Finn not getting a girl or Simon not getting with Betty. What matters is that everything is still resolved wonderfully. I’m so impressed at how Beth and Shermy became these great characters in only a few minutes! Yeah, I finally saw the whole episode and can now fully review it. Congratulations on being the highest ranked episode in the IM Db!
Yeah, Goliad cameo! Thank you, Mr. Ward, for giving us one of the greatest animated shows ever! It looks like the new Golden Age of animation is ending. May it live on in our hearts and minds forever.
Okay, the comic will probably have Finn get with somebody. As the song goes, "It's not the way I hope or how I planned, but somehow it's enough".
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Um...it's was clearly a lot more than the color that changed.
The villains chosen didn't all make sense to be honest, so it was better that they went unused.
Edited by randomness4 on Sep 6th 2018 at 8:16:23 AM
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Hmmm, okay, about the kiss.
That wasn't a kiss to seal a relation. They've already been a couple throughout the past few seasons, the kiss just confirms it.
In any other cartoon, a kiss is preceded with a bit of awkwardness, like blushing or slight hesitation. Films and television does it to make it clear that yes, this is the start of something new.
However, the kiss between Bonnibel and Marceline came natural, fluid, as if they're already comfortable with each other. Even in shows where a couple had broken up before, said couple still goes through the awkward or shyness. Bonnie and Marcy have already made up long before.
Signatures are for lamers.
Marcy and Bonnibel sitting in a tree. K-i-s-s-i-n-g.
First comes love, then comes a giant candy monster who knocks down said tree in a fit of supernatural, life-extinguishing rage.
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Hmmm, somethin' don't seem right.
Oh yeah, it's Adventure Time, that's what makes it tick.
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Looking back on it, I think PB and Marci got back together someone shortly after PB got kicked out by the King of Ooo. They have that episode where they finally explain to each other why the relationship failed the last time and vow to move on from it before ending on a tender moment.
And then by the time we get to stakes shortly after, the two of them are suddenly a lot more intimate and there no more exs tension between them anymore.
As for the league of candy Kingdom H8rs, I'm perfectly fine with them just being a gag at the end of the penultimate episode, because the gag is that they're all useless, rubbish villains. Sir Slocer can't even move under the weight of his own armour! Scorcher and Fern were the only two I thought had the potential to be any use at all in this war.
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Samantha wasn't a hater of the Candy Kingdom...she just wanted to fight probably.
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It still sucks though but it is Adventure Time so yeah.
Speaking of Marceline, as we all know, Beth and Shermy now live in her house. So what happened to her?
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She only lived there because of Finn and Jake reminded her it exist...
She could've moved.
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The fate of Marci and PB in the far future does give me pause.
They'd both have to double in Age to live that late. So it's reasonable that they could get to that date, and also reasonable that they couldn't.
The candy Kingdom is in ruins, and looks like it kind of lost the candy aesthetic after a while. But I think it's just as reaonsble to assume that PB abdicated than she, like died. Moreover, some of PB's stuff was still in Marci's house I belive? The World's Greatest Uncle mug anyway, so I think at some point PB moved in with Marci, which makes me think she did abdicate.
Now the fact the house is now in other people's hands doesn't mean they both died, because Marci is established to move house a lot. They could just be half the way across Ooo by now or on another plain of existence.
Or possibly they decided to both become mortal, both PB and Marci in Stakes seemed to beleiev that a mortal life would be fulfilling.
How would PB make herself "mortal" though? I thought she was naturally long-lasting.
We saw Farmworld Marceline managed to live for an extremely long time... or at least however many years passed between the Mushroom War and Finn being born. That was without her vampiric abilities.
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Oh yeah I forgot about that. She was frozen for like, 4 hundred years though I guess?
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It was still 1,000 years...
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600?
Tho I still don't understand the world being frozen; with Marceline there, I thought it was something like aang in the iceberg, but that doesn't make sense, cause there was a Finn there... so yeah, maybe it was more like an ice age with humans still living in the surface.
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She's still 1000+...
And it had to happen while he was still around, unlike the main verse....
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Why do Farmworld humans have noses when pre-mushroom War humans like Simon and Betty don't?
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Because the art style was different in that timeline.
Because malnourishment
Because of malnourishment, different art styles in that timeline, and lack of mutations. All of that adds up to what we perceived as "slightly more normal-looking humans."
Sidebar: I have no bloody idea why. The nose and eye thing in Farmworld is weird.
...I wonder how the Farmworld timeline is doing.
Edited by Soble on Sep 11th 2018 at 6:27:21 AM
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x5 No, what I mean is that I always asumed she (and everybody were) was frozen inside of ice, like aang, so the first 400 years don't count, and she would only be biologically 600 years old.
But now I doubt that, if that had been the case then Finn couldn't have possibly existed.
The idea of PB and UG settling their feud in a mental landscape is great, and I might even settle with Finn's Take a Third Option. But the way the promos and even BMO presented it you really thought there'd be some kind of war with all these villains and heroes of Adventure Time Past colliding and then... they didn't. It turned into a giant Enemy Mine with everyone laying the smackdown on the Golb-monster which was neat, but, still.
I'd have settled for a brief fight between the candy troops and the robots and Fern, HW, and FP fighting Gumbald's Legion of Doom - didn't have to last long, didn't have to be the greatest anime fight ever, and would have made the stinger at the end of Gumbaldia a bit more meaningful. Instead, PB and UG duke it out, Scorcher runs away like a peasant, and I don't think Ricardo, Bandit Princess, Samantha, Ash, or Mee-mow, or any of the Legion of Candy Kingdom Haters
appeared or did anything. (Disclaimer: If any of them actually appeared or did anything then I must have missed it.)
Again, I compare this to Samurai Jack - the Scotsman character was easily a fan favorite and everyone wanted to see him and Jack meet up again. By the time they do the Scotsman's presence isn't all that important and his conversation with Jack feels like an afterthought. I think the writers/animators simply didn't have the time. I won't bore you with my ten-page rant about The Guardian from Jack and the Traveling Creatures and how much of a missed opportunity that was.
The Golb-monster seemed to be the writers throwing a bone to the people who wanted to see more of The Lich. As someone else stated, he'd been beaten so many times I guess there wasn't a way to really include him here as a threat.
The Lich's lack of origin is something I'm actually okay with. He was born/conceived from a nuclear war, has a vague history of fighting Billy and slowly regaining his power, fast-forward to the present. He's already established as some kind of primordial being, or at least a being that is somehow aware of the beginning of the universe. Not having a complete timeline for him keeps him scary and menacing as this sort of unknowable horror.
Edited by Soble on Sep 6th 2018 at 8:25:43 AM
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