Looks like there's no YMMV to check.
I highly doubt the moment mentioned is meant for arousal if the story's meant to be dark and gritty. On the other hand, can someone confirm whether or not the events go too far to the point where we'd need to cut anyways?
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report^ There was a YMMV at some point. Cutlisted for only having an unapproved CM entry, and concerns that it was Autoerotic Troping. Maybe a mod can retrieve the example, if no one is up to reading the thing?
Edited by underCoverSailsman on Jul 26th 2022 at 11:19:22 AM
Checking the cut reason, and it had an unauthorized CM along with a non-YMMV item (Refuge in Audacity)
- Complete Monster: One of Legate Snakefang Gelder's very first actions in the story is torturing a six-year-old filly in front of her uncle, then having his lobotomized slave studs rape both of them. One of the implements he uses to torture her is a pear of anguish, a device that was often used historically on a woman's... privates. Think about that. He, himself, commits rape against female prisoners of war repeatedly, and tortures prisoners of war to death solely for his own amusement.
- Refuge in Audacity: When Comrade Bright confronts the Wanderer about his razing of Lesbos (Starlight had told him previously that she'd reformed him.) The Wanderer tells him that he did it because the mayor called Starlight ugly. Bright buys it once Starlight reminds him that psychological change is a slow and gradual process that takes a lot of time, skill, and effort to achieve.
Also, noting that the link on the main page leads to a 404. (Edit: Wayback machine works, and it's flagged for adult content.)
Edited by Berrenta on Jul 26th 2022 at 11:38:59 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportBumping to get this out of the stack of locked threads.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanBumping to get this out of the stack of locked threads.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanNote that the Wayback machine snapshot only includes the age-gate page, not the actual fic. The fic has been archived at https://fimfetch.net/story/299351/The_Phoenix_of_the_Wasteland (SFW chapter index page)
Skimmed until the relevant scene. The rape and torture is definitely not intended to be erotic, and while it's far from tasteful (it definitely reads like the author wanted to be as edgy as possible to prove that this is a dark and mature story about magic talking ponies), it's also definitely not pedobait. The rape is only described in two sentences and the torture doesn't go beyond the level of what you'd see on-screen in, say, Saw, so I don't think it's worth cutting for that scene alone.
Edited by Orbiting on Sep 20th 2022 at 5:47:56 AM
Yeah, I was going to say based on the description this sounds like "stupid grimdark" and therefore isn't rule-violating
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?Keep than per above
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Keep. It's dark, it's gritty, but it's not porn or pedo-pandering.
Edgefic being edgefic. Keep.
Keep due to being overtly edgy but not pedo-pandering.
Grimdark be grimdark. Keep.
We shouldn't cut it. It's so edgy that it cuts itself.
Keep.
Edited by Ramidel on Sep 20th 2022 at 4:13:34 AM
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.Keep, ow the edge
MB Pending | MB Drafts | MB DatesSeems like a consensus to keep. I'll do the processing; closing in the meantime.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The flag here for ThePhoenixoftheWasteland was sent with the rationale