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CPFMfan I am serious. This is my serious face. from A Whale's Vagina Since: Aug, 2010
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#24401: Feb 20th 2012 at 12:54:06 PM

You'd think that Inferno Grenades would be effective against Guardians if thrown behind them, but they're not. I still don't know what the point of them are.

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#24402: Feb 20th 2012 at 12:58:32 PM

Maybe it's the same point as using it in Mass Effect 2.

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#24403: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:01:28 PM

Which was?

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#24404: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:06:56 PM

At a bunch of organic enemies who were vunerable to it. Their health/armour gets whittled away while they panic like crazy, allowing you to set up some shenanigans.

Obviously, Guardians aren't affected. So you'll have to adapt.

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#24405: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:08:19 PM

The Inferno Grenades are pretty useless, considering you can only carry two of them and that the Frag Grenades actually kill their targets instead of stunning them for a few seconds. I wish the krogan soldier had those instead sad

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#24406: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:11:55 PM

As do I but we'll have to make do. I don't really like how grenades are handled at all in this game anyway. Bioware aren't into buffing/nerfing things via patches, right?

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#24407: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:12:56 PM

The thing with the inferno grenade is that the radius is farking huge. 5m at base, and you can increase that by 70%. It doesn't do all that much damage at base(100 damage? Sticky grenades did 600 at base!) but you can easily hit 6+ guys with it.

I'm just not sure what that the final level means when it say "Increases shrapnel by 1 fragment"

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#24408: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:20:37 PM

@Hellman: One of the patches for DA:O had some pretty significant balancing tweaks. But that's a completely different team.

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#24409: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:23:51 PM

The demo does have an option that's on by default to send metrics to Bioware, so they may be tweaking numbers before release.

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#24410: Feb 20th 2012 at 1:30:36 PM

I hope they don't nerf the trusty Carnifex, because that would seem like the first thing they would nerf. It basically makes the Viper obsolete.

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Hellbore Since: Dec, 2010
#24411: Feb 20th 2012 at 2:00:32 PM

@ch00bh the Widow definately does not need a slot shot to deal with Guardians. It will puncture the sheild just fine. Finished a Bronze 'Take Out the Targets' wave with that in record time (for me)

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#24412: Feb 20th 2012 at 3:23:36 PM

so, i was playing my krogan soldier, and I got in a match with another krogan soldier. Only, this krogan soldier was using a sniper rifle.

I kept thinking to myself, "ur doing it wrong!1!"

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#24413: Feb 20th 2012 at 3:30:54 PM

A sniper rifle is useful for when you have to bunker down and defend something, even as a krogan.

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#24414: Feb 20th 2012 at 3:45:08 PM

Still too heavy.

The metagame right now is focused solely on powers, and the faster you use your powers, the better.

So, it really doesn't compensate to use it, even though it pains me to say so.

edited 20th Feb '12 3:47:56 PM by fakeangelbr

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#24415: Feb 20th 2012 at 3:53:27 PM

You need good weapons to beat Gold and sometimes Silver, though. Like some Widows to lay waste to Atlas mechs, a good assault rifle (or just the Carnifex...) for the very durable troops, etc.

edited 20th Feb '12 3:54:57 PM by CPFMfan

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#24416: Feb 20th 2012 at 4:24:24 PM

A sniper rifle is useful for when you have to bunker down and defend something, even as a krogan.

So is a phalanx, and it ways like 3 time less.

[up][up], [up]it really depends on the class. For, say, an adept or engineer, weapons are secondary, you're all about supporting with your powers. But if you're talking Sentinel or Soldier, then weapons take priority.

edited 20th Feb '12 4:26:06 PM by Blissey1

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#24418: Feb 20th 2012 at 4:26:38 PM

Sniper rifles in general aren't useful for much right now, except the Widow, for taking down Atlas mechs.

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#24419: Feb 20th 2012 at 4:31:47 PM

[up]Disagree. My Mantis infiltrator does just fine. Cloak, headshot, rinse, repeat. Cloak and rez, cloak and hack objectives.

Powers are the bomb though so I only carry one weapon for any class. Mattock X for Engineers and Sentinels, Phalanx VIII for my Adepts, Katana VII for my vanguards and krogan Soldiers, Mantis IX for my Infiltrator. Finally unlocked a Revenant I for my human Soldier last night but I need to level it as it is a bit crap at the moment.

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#24420: Feb 20th 2012 at 4:33:57 PM

The Revenant is not really worth it, even with accuracy and stability boosters. It weighs a ton and, while it is powerful, it takes a while to actually kill stronger targets, leaving you exposed for a large amount of time, and slows you down while you fire it. It also has a ton of recoil (once again, even with a high level stability enhancer), is hard to use on moving targets (*cough*Phantoms*cough*) and overall I'd recommend packing a modded Mattock X instead. Haven't tried the high level versions of the Revenant yet, maybe they're better.

edited 20th Feb '12 4:37:00 PM by CPFMfan

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#24421: Feb 20th 2012 at 4:50:16 PM

Yeah Mattock X is my favourite gun right now. Agree on the low-level Revenant. I get away with it on the soldier because he doesn't have great powers but definitely its not ideal. Shame.

Fake was rocking a vanguard with a pistol in our game last night. Loved it. Charge, nova, charge right.

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#24422: Feb 20th 2012 at 4:52:23 PM

My krogan soldier rocks a shotgun and a phalanx, just so I can do something if I absolutely cannot enter melee range for some reason.

and I really can't decide between Katana or Scimitar for the shotty, though I also don't think it's too big a difference.

edited 20th Feb '12 4:54:57 PM by Blissey1

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#24423: Feb 20th 2012 at 5:08:45 PM

[up][up] You guys going to play another game anytime soon?

[up] I prefer a modded Scimitar, it's more accurate and doesn't need to be reloaded as often. I'll ditch it as soon as I get my old GPS, though. That's still in the game, right?

edited 20th Feb '12 5:09:48 PM by CPFMfan

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#24424: Feb 20th 2012 at 5:10:52 PM

With the inclusion of scopes for other weapons, I'm not sure what niche the viper fills anymore besides 'light sniper'

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#24425: Feb 20th 2012 at 5:15:35 PM

I've said it before: the Viper is pointless, just take a modded Carnifex.

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