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TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Always watching, never seen
Oct 6th 2010 at 5:57:09 PM

DIFFICULT to get is fine. 1-in-ridiculous drops aren't hard to get; they're just time-consuming to get.

There is nothing difficult about killing the same mook fifty times.

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold, dispassionate logic that which can be equally or better explained by emotional outburst.
Signed Always Right
Always Right
Oct 6th 2010 at 5:59:27 PM

But theres nothing to brag about if you just achieved something difficult...bragging rights is when you do something crazy obsessively daunting...for the sake of bragging about whatever it is you did.

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo.
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Oct 6th 2010 at 7:17:36 PM

Third and fourth endings require all weapons, from what I've heard, so no, it's not just bragging rights.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Always watching, never seen
Oct 6th 2010 at 7:19:30 PM

Yeah, but they don't have to be upgraded, thankfully.

That's just if you want the three Achievements.

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold, dispassionate logic that which can be equally or better explained by emotional outburst.
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo.
rrrrrrrrr
Oct 6th 2010 at 7:20:44 PM

Speaking of which, I am rather hoping that this game doesn't pull a Drakengard on us with the final ending, considering what you have to do and what happens as a result of said ending.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Relationship Status: In season
Crazed Lawrencian
Oct 6th 2010 at 7:59:23 PM

Maybe actually give you a chance at getting a happy ending?

Proud member of the IAA What's the point of being grown up if you can't act childish?
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Relationship Status: Not war
Oct 6th 2010 at 10:06:49 PM

Cavia? Happy ending? lololololololololol

i. hear. a. sound.
JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York
Jonah Falcon
Oct 6th 2010 at 10:38:52 PM

I like Nier, though I have to force myself into pretending it's an Xbox 1 game.

Jonah Falcon
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo.
rrrrrrrrr
Oct 7th 2010 at 7:20:09 AM

^ If someone can explain why this keeps getting said, with evident screenshots and/or video footage in a decent resolution, I'd be much grateful. So far, comparing the visuals of this game to, say, Brutal Legend, I just can't see the "This looks like a late generation XBox / PS2 game" thing. The visual effects in use are beyond the PS2's abilities, as is the draw distance in wide open areas.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Relationship Status: Not war
Oct 7th 2010 at 7:26:58 AM

I think it's the general reaction to the renders not being detailed enough to see Kaine's package.

i. hear. a. sound.
Electivirus A-HYUK!
A-HYUK!
Oct 7th 2010 at 7:35:04 AM

*snicker*

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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Relationship Status: In season
Crazed Lawrencian
Oct 7th 2010 at 9:13:17 AM

They're detailed enough for her to have a fine arse, so...

Proud member of the IAA What's the point of being grown up if you can't act childish?
JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York
Jonah Falcon
Oct 7th 2010 at 3:32:20 PM

The visuals scream "last gen port".

Jonah Falcon
TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Always watching, never seen
Oct 7th 2010 at 4:17:11 PM

^ Why? What, specifically, about them do so?

Drake's Razor: Never attribute to cold, dispassionate logic that which can be equally or better explained by emotional outburst.
Signed Always Right
Always Right
Oct 7th 2010 at 4:48:17 PM

edit: wrong thread tongue

edited 7th Oct '10 4:48:50 PM by Signed

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo.
rrrrrrrrr
Oct 7th 2010 at 5:43:18 PM

Repetition of point with no evidence. Rather pointless. There is no way the last generation could have handled this game.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Oct 7th 2010 at 9:02:32 PM

I think it's because while it IS up to par, it does not PASS par like most games, which is pretty silly because unless you X3000 ZOOM like most nitpickers you're not going to see this one texture at perfect resolution or this one structure was the same as the last structure.

GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo.
rrrrrrrrr
Oct 9th 2010 at 6:15:05 AM

I know this is probably going to shock folks who aren't spoiler hounds (which, considering where this thread is in the internet, is maybe two of you at most), but I went and read up on the links between Drakengard and Nier.

One, to a great extent I'm glad I haven't played Drakengard. It's very much not my kind of game, and the plotline leaves much to be desired. Two, after reading up on the supplementary material, I think I can safely ignore it. I'm told 90% of it never shows up in Nier, and some of it directly contradicts what I already know is stated in game. Stating more of my reasons for rejecting the links would require spoilers, and they're a lot harder to avoid accidentally reading on the forums.

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Relationship Status: Not war
Oct 9th 2010 at 8:51:38 AM

But it's still incredibly fun to read, I think. [lol] But I'm just that type of person. I love to know what stuff was going on in a writer's head as they were worldbuilding. Yeah, 90% doesn't show up in the game. But it's an entertaining 90%.

Also, Drakengard was a horrible game to play. Seriously. So don't. But it makes a fantastic Let's Play.

edited 9th Oct '10 8:51:56 AM by Bur

i. hear. a. sound.
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo.
rrrrrrrrr
Oct 9th 2010 at 8:56:35 AM

That's actually what I was reading :p Followed closely by the translation of the supplementary material.

The dev team are nuts. But it still feels like they made something neat with Nier, or at the very least they made awesome music. I may cave and actually try to play this on my old standard-def TV within the week...

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Oct 9th 2010 at 11:28:22 AM

Speaking of this game, some anonymous vandal using multiple I Ps has been trying to complain about the western version for months by trying to put down a Nattery Complaining About Shows You Dont Like entry on the Gonk page.

Ponicalica from facing Buttercup
Signed Always Right
Always Right
Oct 9th 2010 at 2:55:14 PM

oi, my only complaint is the absolute lack of ability to choose characters..............................and the weird in-game model, especially when he jumps.

Besides, I can't edit anymore.

PS-that said, I DO blame the idiots in Los Angelus for the whole mess. And I won't hide the fact that the youngNier looks much better than oldNier.

I wonder why Kaine remained unchanged.

edited 9th Oct '10 3:19:18 PM by Signed

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
GoggleFox rrrrrrrrr from Acadia, yo.
rrrrrrrrr
Oct 9th 2010 at 3:58:10 PM

No reason to change her. She fits in both versions of the story.

I think I've figured out why Father Nier looks so odd when he jumps, though. His jumping animation would look fine for someone with a much more wiry frame (at least from the back and from above it looks "okay") but for someone with as much muscle mass as he's picked up, it looks weird. I figure they changed the model but left many of the animations nearly identical.

As a note, I consider Father Nier to be sort of the Orca version, whereas Brother Nier is more like a Kite.

edited 9th Oct '10 3:59:03 PM by GoggleFox

Sakamoto demands an explanation for this shit.
Signed Always Right
Always Right
Oct 9th 2010 at 4:06:03 PM

I guess Kaine fits both western and eastern tastes.

...no idea who either Orca or Kite is. Kite is the name of a hentai with plot shoe-horned in. Orca is some whale.

Never thought about the jump animation like that though, it just looks really weird whenever I did it...I guess that does sorta prove that the younger one came first....sorta. But if that really was the case, they shouldn't have been so lazy to not give him a new jump animation.

Too bad I didn't have enough time to even beat the game.

edited 9th Oct '10 4:08:27 PM by Signed

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."

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