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A general thread for discussion of the Harry Potter books. Any new books set in the same world are also on-topic.

Games, films and other adaptations may be more appropriate for other threads if they're being discussed in isolation.

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there doesn't seem to be a general HP topic...

Edited by Mrph1 on May 27th 2025 at 9:17:24 AM

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1701: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:14:08 PM

Ginny did a spread in Playwizard to pay for Wizard College. She went on to have a moderately successful career designing handbags for rich socialites and their dogs.

Draco Malfoy became a children's entertainer.

Lavender Brown did donkey shows in Tijuana.

Percy Weasley left the Ministry to work as a Drover in Australia.

Hagrid became Headmaster of Hogwarts after McGonagall resigned to work at Weasley's Wizard Wheezes.

It's not over. Not yet.
DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#1702: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:18:41 PM

Then again, if Harry Potter is cloned early enough, does it actually mean anything? They just need to add flashbacks of his parents' death, and that can be accomplished as convenient. He may notice, but would he remember?

  • Unless he needs to deal with a four year lifespan.

You know, there's another way to get a post mortem replacement...

  • "Potter, you smell...Argh, my precious brains!"
  • Unfortunately, this runs the risk of having Vampire Potter...

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1703: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:25:38 PM

I'm really getting sick of this Unreliable Narrator bullshit.

Oh?

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1704: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:27:09 PM

You know all those life and death situations Harry always escaped?

What if he didn't? What if every book starts off with a fresh clone? And somewhere in Hogwarts all the dead clones are kept in stasis?

@ Jewely: Wrong trope I guess.

A similar situation is that of the Slytherins. We're told that not Slytherins are evil, but because Harry (and Ron and pretty much everyone else) don't believe this at all. We're only shown maybe five Slytherins that aren't either evil or cowards. Show vs. Tell. We're TOLD Slytherin is not the House of Evil, we're SHOWN that it is. Dumbledore even tells Harry he thought Snape was sorted into the wrong house.

The same thing shows up in Ron/Hermione. We get some indication that Ron's attracted to her in GOF. The thread is dropped in OOTP (unless you count the continued hints that have been mentioned) and it comes back in full force in HBP. Why didn't Harry ever think that maybe, just maybe, Ron might have a crush on his best friend? After the Yule Ball fiasco? Is Harry so dumb he can't put two and two together?

edited 7th Feb '11 5:36:14 PM by Medicus

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1705: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:34:44 PM

The Slytherin thing is one of my few major gripes with the series. We're shown... one major Slytherin that has never gone evil in their whole lives, isn't openly racist, and/or doesn't appear to hate somebody with an unnecessary fervor. That one Slytherin also happens to be a fairly detestable nepotistic self-serving prick - though his film portrayal is a lot less... rough around the edges (though honestly everyone's film version is like that).

The rest of them are all extremely unpleasant people who got a taste of real evil and decided too late they'd rather be unpleasant on their own. No wonder the fandom excessively vilifies Regulus retroactively - he's the only one we don't know for sure was an asshole.

But Rowling keeping telling us the Slytherins aren't all bad. Though some of that can be explained by it being Harry's POV - I'm sure beyond his year there are some Slytherins who get along with the other houses, occasionally we got scenes of all the houses mingling, though those were more common earlier in the series.

edited 7th Feb '11 5:35:17 PM by KnownUnknown

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1706: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:38:06 PM

Blaise Zabini isn't an asshole racist. Instead he falls into the other Slytherin role, cowardly yes-men Quislings.

How hard would it have been for one member of the DA to be a Slytherin?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1707: Feb 7th 2011 at 5:46:33 PM

Well, he does use the word "Mudblood."

Though Zabini's the only Slytherin I like, because while he apparently hates people, he apparently hates everybody, his fellow Slytherins (read: Death Eaters) included, with a snarky disdain. Him being the only Slytherin we see to take a dig at Draco made my day.

edited 7th Feb '11 5:51:46 PM by KnownUnknown

DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#1708: Feb 7th 2011 at 7:14:48 PM

Hmm...Harry Potter clone Zerg Rush? Man, that'd be pretty horrifying, only having vague memories of a year and the occassional important event...sheesh, that's me!

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Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1709: Feb 7th 2011 at 7:17:49 PM

I'm gonna bring up my Stable Time Loop Harry idea again (Link).

Anyway, something I'd like to see is a Final Battle between Harry and Voldemort, where Harry has used a time turner to get ten versions of himself together to fight Voldemort. Meanwhile, the eleventh (and newest) version is chilling on some beach in the Bahamas, confident in the knowledge that he can't be killed, because he's already gone back and given his past self the notes and turner necessary to pull it all off.

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1710: Feb 8th 2011 at 8:26:13 AM

Is Harry so dumb he can't put two and two together? Don't even get me started.

Who the fuck is Zamboni?!?

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1711: Feb 8th 2011 at 2:48:25 PM

Blaise Zabini. Slytherin in the same year as Harry. Black guy. His mother's had seven husbands and they all died under suspicious circumstances. Not a fan of Voldemort but doesn't want anything to do with muggle-borns or muggles.

Unless you're in fanfiction land, where she's a blond Italian girl with [Insert personality here].

Making OCs out of Slytherins is fairly common, given all we have are names.

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DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#1712: Feb 8th 2011 at 3:13:57 PM

Blaise Zabini, Monster Clown!

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Fusionman Since: Nov, 2009
#1713: Feb 9th 2011 at 9:26:49 AM

Blaise Zabini a Brit who was born and raised in Canada! tongue

DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#1714: Feb 9th 2011 at 10:14:47 AM

Blaise Zabini, master of the Burning Finger, and leader of the Slythrin Alliance!

Somehow I'm picturing Harry Potter with an Evangelion Mind Screw ending. Or at least Komm, Susser, Tod for the last book.

"People need a hero..."

edited 9th Feb '11 10:17:05 AM by DrRockopolis

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Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1715: Feb 9th 2011 at 2:26:54 PM

"Just one question, Harry. What if you miss?"

"I won't."

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1717: Feb 9th 2011 at 4:38:26 PM

Thought I'd try blasting my way out. You know, mix things up a little.

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1718: Feb 9th 2011 at 4:39:24 PM

"Harry, never make a girl a promise if you can't keep it."

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1719: Feb 9th 2011 at 4:47:47 PM

"You told me there wouldn't be any reporters."

"And you told me you were gonna wear something nice! Folks need heroes, Potter. To give 'em hope. So smile, would ya? While we still got something to smile about."

edited 9th Feb '11 4:48:05 PM by Medicus

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1720: Feb 9th 2011 at 4:51:15 PM

Harry, where are you going?

To give the Death Eaters back their bomb.

Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1721: Feb 9th 2011 at 4:53:57 PM

Harry, where are you going?

To give the Death Eaters back their magical bomb.

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1722: Feb 9th 2011 at 4:58:54 PM

Touche.

Isolate that signal! Potter, mind telling me what you're doing on that ship dragon?

Sir. Finishing this fight

DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#1723: Feb 9th 2011 at 5:10:24 PM

"Oh, hello Harry. I was just telling Harry and Dumbledore here about the benefits of mass production."

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DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1724: Feb 9th 2011 at 5:54:46 PM

'Watch your back, spell straight, conserve magic, and never, ever, cut a deal with a dragon.'

  • Might make for an interesting Fan Fiction.
    • His potential discovered, Harry Potter leaves the orphanarium at the tender age of eleven to attend Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry Magecraft and Shamanism, a subsidiary of Saeder-Krupp Heavy Industries, Thaumaturgic Branch.
    • Magical Education Division Senior Vice President Dumbledore serves as headmaster, and Harry will be given the most cost-effective and efficient education in magic available, with teachers such as;
      • Binns 1.03, the corporate history teachsoft
      • Hans Gruber Severus Snape, alchemist and enchantments
  • Hmm...who would be the Death Eater stand in? Some kind of Shadowrunner, but who? Rival Corporation (or that might be Durmstrange and Beaubaxtons)? Ecoterrorists? Socialists (Dirty commies)?

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DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#1725: Feb 9th 2011 at 7:00:54 PM

Hmm...Voldermort could be a rogue Aztechnology shadowrunner. His return from the dead? Cybermancy.

  • Or he could be a Toxic Shaman or an Insect Spirit...

Alternatively, Hogwarts could be a clandestine, possibly anti-corporate school.

What would the Sorceror's Stone be? A magical artifact? Orichalcum? A leftover from Dunkelzhan's will? An unlicensed nanoforge? Depends on what Hogwarts is, but hah, maybe Harry and co are stealing it, rather than protecting it.

Hmm...I can see Harry as a Mystic Adept, Hermione as a Magician, and Ron as an Adept...

edited 9th Feb '11 7:03:36 PM by DrRockopolis

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