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A general thread for discussion of the Harry Potter books. Any new books set in the same world are also on-topic.

Games, films and other adaptations may be more appropriate for other threads if they're being discussed in isolation.

The HBO tv series has its own thread.

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    Original text of OP 

there doesn't seem to be a general HP topic...

Edited by Mrph1 on May 27th 2025 at 9:17:24 AM

Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1501: Jan 21st 2011 at 11:10:59 PM

Dude, i saw one where Harry went back and fucked his mom...shit is weird.sad

OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania Since: Dec, 1969
Don't feed the plants!
#1502: Jan 21st 2011 at 11:12:05 PM

...the fuuuuuuck

Okay, I've never seen something THAT bad. And I've read fics of ill repute. And HPATMOR is a highly respected fic, and it STILL has mind-screwing nonsense like that.

I'm feeling strangely happy now, contented and serene. Oh don't you see, finally I'll be, somewhere that's green...
juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#1503: Jan 21st 2011 at 11:12:48 PM

@Medicus: The Godfather was split in three parts, and one of them was a flashback, in the middle of the plot to Vito's life in Italy.

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1504: Jan 21st 2011 at 11:23:22 PM

I've seen a lot of REALLY fucking bad fanfiction. What gets my hackles up is when a bad fanfic (where an eleven year old is planning to rape a ten year old) is actually rather popular and considered "good". Or Hogwarts Exposed, which is basically the demented ramblings of a pedophile, but still has a fairly large Yahoo! group. Yech.

In fact... two links.

The first is to Opedius Flower. Voldemort isn't around, so Lily and James have more kids. Over the course of the fic, Harry kills his brother and father, and has sex with his mother and his sister. In a threesome. I'm not sure it was consensual or not [Edit: It is. Dark Lord Potter had a field day.sad], I didn't want to read the text any closer. I skimmed the whole thing and regretted that.

Oh, and the second is Family Whore. At the age of ten, Ginny becomes the family whore. This means that she can be fucked by any member of the family at any time. Including her mother. Yay!

(Neither of those links will take you to the fic. The second is a partial sporking. I'm not that cruel.tongue)

@Medicus: The Godfather was split in three parts, and one of them was a flashback, in the middle of the plot to Vito's life in Italy.
Again, I can't write for shit.

What I was thinking was that these three non-Harry-focused chapters would take place throughout the books as a kind of "intermission" from the rest of the story.

edited 22nd Jan '11 4:37:53 AM by Medicus

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1505: Jan 21st 2011 at 11:29:31 PM

Neither of those sound that bad. Then again some of the first adult fiction I read upon gaining access to the internet was incest stuff off Literotica.

I fully acknowledge I'm a degenerate but fics like that can be rather interesting to me.

But I hate Harry and Ginny so not sure about if I'd like these anyway.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
Away on the wind~
#1506: Jan 22nd 2011 at 12:31:02 AM

What I was thinking was that these three non-Harry-focused chapters would take place throughout the books as a kind of "intermission" from the rest of the story.

The problem there is that the style of the rest of the series doesn't sit well with that.

You'd have four books, narrated purely by Harry- and then, as you're sitting, reading Order of the Phoenix and having sex fantasies about Luna, you're suddenly confronted by this one chapter narrated by Draco.

You're like, whoah, what the fuck, wait a moment. you go back- yep, Harry. You skip forward- Harry. You go back and check your previous books- yep, all Harry.

So why the fuck is Draco suddenly taking up book space now?

As I said earlier. People can pull it off well, if they're good enough writers. J.K.Rowling just... isn't.

There are too many toasters in my chimney!
Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1507: Jan 22nd 2011 at 12:59:01 AM

The problem there is that the style of the rest of the series doesn't sit well with that.

You'd have four books, narrated purely by Harry

Okay, I'll just address what Cygan has written —

and then, as you're sitting, reading Order of the Phoenix and having sex fantasies about Luna
— Wait, WHAT?!

Oh, I get it, you've got me confused with Kino.

And I do see where you're coming from. So I'll just quietly drop it.

edited 22nd Jan '11 12:59:40 AM by Medicus

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
Away on the wind~
#1508: Jan 22nd 2011 at 1:21:45 AM

Nah, I was speaking from Kino's POV, there.

Or from Kino's Good Twin's POV, anyway.

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Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1509: Jan 22nd 2011 at 1:41:06 AM

But... that can't be Kino's Evil Twin!

His avatar doesn't have a goatee!

It's not over. Not yet.
Idler20 Rabbit Season Since: Oct, 2010
Rabbit Season
#1510: Jan 22nd 2011 at 4:23:45 AM

You know, there was a time when this thread was for moderately serious discussion about this series, rather than horrible sexual talk. Can we move back to that, please?

You're an ad hominem attack!
Medicus Sierra 117 from Australia Since: Sep, 2009
Sierra 117
#1511: Jan 22nd 2011 at 4:28:15 AM

Let's talk about how fantastic the time travel parts in Prisoner of Azkaban were, then.

So, was it all just a Stable Time Loop, or is it impossible for time to be changed at all in Harry Potter?

edited 22nd Jan '11 4:30:35 AM by Medicus

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
Away on the wind~
#1512: Jan 22nd 2011 at 5:09:34 AM

[up][up]... Did you somehow manage to miss the serious discussion of the layout of the book that came immediately before that?

[up] I never did get that. If Harry went back in time to save himself, then who saved that Harry? But if another Harry saved that Harry, then there had to have been another one to save that Harry.

There had to have been a starting point. And who saved Starting Harry?

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1513: Jan 22nd 2011 at 5:22:37 AM

The idea that i'm the evil twin is offensive to be honest. You even wonder why they didn't use the time turners more often?

edited 22nd Jan '11 5:23:05 AM by Kino

Idler20 Rabbit Season Since: Oct, 2010
Rabbit Season
#1514: Jan 22nd 2011 at 5:27:20 AM

[up][up] No, I didn't, but it involved you mentioning sexual fantasies and then we looped back around to the creepy discussion again.

You're an ad hominem attack!
CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
Away on the wind~
#1515: Jan 22nd 2011 at 5:50:53 AM

[up] It's a heavy topic. I'd prefer to lighten the mood where I can, even if it's by being stupid and creepy.

[up][up] I did wonder that, actually. But I'm more interested in how the first Harry got out alive. Or does it have the power to pre-emptively save you?

Think of the abuse you could do with a game breaker like that.

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Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1516: Jan 22nd 2011 at 6:36:54 AM

^I'm thinking go back in time and off Tom Riddle.

juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#1517: Jan 22nd 2011 at 6:55:59 AM

Weren't they destroyed on Battle at the Ministry?

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#1518: Jan 22nd 2011 at 7:06:33 AM

Wow....keep all your weapons in one spot. Fucking a, Ministry.

OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania Since: Dec, 1969
Don't feed the plants!
#1519: Jan 22nd 2011 at 9:40:53 AM

To be fair, from what I read, Harry Potter And The Methods Of Rationality seemed to be pretty good aside from that brainfart (dickfart?) on the part of the author.

I'm feeling strangely happy now, contented and serene. Oh don't you see, finally I'll be, somewhere that's green...
juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#1520: Jan 22nd 2011 at 9:44:51 AM

I've actually enjoyed quite a bit of it. I wouldn't say it's perfect, though.

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1521: Jan 22nd 2011 at 11:31:15 AM

I never did get that. If Harry went back in time to save himself, then who saved that Harry? But if another Harry saved that Harry, then there had to have been another one to save that Harry.

Stable Time Loops don't exactly work that way. The Harry who saved in the first place is the same one who saved him when Harry went pack in time - unlike if it were another kind of time travel situation, there's no alternate universes - it's all one timeline.

But it's odd, because Hermione ''talks'' about how it's possible to alter history, but it's shown to be something a little different.

edited 22nd Jan '11 11:33:26 AM by KnownUnknown

juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#1522: Jan 22nd 2011 at 11:52:39 AM

[up]I would say History is altered. But we (nor the characters) don't see it like that because all that remains is the change.

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
Rock On
#1523: Jan 22nd 2011 at 12:21:41 PM

But the statement "History is changed" implies that there was an 'Original' History that was altered, no? Typically one where Harry got eaten.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
Away on the wind~
#1524: Jan 22nd 2011 at 12:34:42 PM

[up] Exactly.

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juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#1525: Jan 22nd 2011 at 12:42:45 PM

Pretty much, yeah. There was an AU where Harry didn't go back in time and died. And by using time travel he actually hopped universes.

Jokes aside, maybe he wasn't saved by Time-travelling Harry on the first time. After all, Harry didn't recognize the Stag immediately.

Of course this is all theories and WMG.

edited 22nd Jan '11 12:44:56 PM by juancarlos11

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