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KSPAM PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY from PARTY ROCK Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#501: Dec 7th 2011 at 10:58:19 AM

[up][up][up]In combat, yes (but she's getting better). Outside of combat, she's made some fairly invaluable contributions, like pegging down Their characteristics and weaknesses, being the first to identify the EMP, and oh yeah, offering up a whole friggin' mansion as a safehouse.

Regardless of how long it lasted, you have to admit that last bit is kind of important tongue

edited 7th Dec '11 10:59:08 AM by KSPAM

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#502: Dec 7th 2011 at 11:11:43 AM

I don't dislike Rei, and I want her to survive, but I don't want her to end up with Takashi. I guess I can tolerate her as a part of a Tenchi Solution, but otherwise, Saeko deserves him better than her.

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#503: Dec 7th 2011 at 11:14:09 AM

[up] I agree with this. I don't particularly see why she needs to die or have any unfortunate happenings thrust upon her, but I really don't want her to end up with Takashi.

I mean really, this should be common sense for Takashi. You have two girls, equally hot, except one treats you like shit and the other doesn't. Which is the more logical choice here?

edited 7th Dec '11 11:14:38 AM by KSPAM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#504: Dec 7th 2011 at 11:15:12 AM

The only couple I actually ship is Hirano and Saya. Takashi just seems too hard; he seems much more interested in surviving Them than in relationships (which is a good bloody idea, don't get me wrong!).

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Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#505: Dec 7th 2011 at 3:53:45 PM

I did find Rei a little more tolerable in the English dub, though. Dunno why.

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#506: Dec 7th 2011 at 3:56:21 PM

Maybe it's just because the English dub is a wonderful source of Narm and awesome one-liners.

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Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#507: Dec 7th 2011 at 3:57:39 PM

I thought it was better than the original.

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KSPAM PARTY PARTY PARTY I WANNA HAVE A PARTY from PARTY ROCK Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#508: Dec 7th 2011 at 3:58:57 PM

So did I.

... *brofist*

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Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#509: Dec 7th 2011 at 3:59:51 PM

...oh.

I was just getting my flame-retardant suit on. Are we... not going to do this, then?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#510: Dec 7th 2011 at 4:28:51 PM

While I was the one who first pointed out Rei's flaws, it's important to note that all this shit was dropped right on her skull out of nowhere.

As already pointed out, her old boyfriend was killed by her other old boyfriend. That has to be awkward. People can do and say crazy things in these situations.

When you think about it, even if she does still care about Takashi, there might be a part of her that thinks: "well isn't it a little disrespectful to get together with Takashi when Hisashi (that is his name right?) is barely in the ground."

Also, we are still in the dark about exactly why they broke up in the first place (being second fiddle with a zombie apocalypse).

Not that any of this changes the fact that Saeko is far more well liked. When I really think about it, Rei can't really win this. Look who she's up against.

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#511: Dec 7th 2011 at 4:47:57 PM

[up][up] Nope. I loved the dub. Captured the spirit of the show better than the original, if you ask me. Bonus points for making the cast reminiscent of actual high-schoolers instead of trained professionals.

[up] The equally sexy if not sexier Crazy Awesome Hot Amazon Yamato Nadeshiko with Implausible Fencing Powers? Yeah, those aren't good odds.

edited 7th Dec '11 4:51:42 PM by KSPAM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#512: Dec 7th 2011 at 4:54:34 PM

^^Those are quite good points - I certainly can't blame Rei for not adapting as well as the others are. And she is adapting well; it's just relative to the gun nut, the sadist close-combat master, the hardened leader, and Saya that she's not.

(I do love all of Takashi's group, incidentally.)

^The anime just took the Narm and ran with it. I've heard the English dub took that and ran with it, but ever since the Matrix Boobs I can't bring myself to watch the anime.

edited 7th Dec '11 4:56:00 PM by RedSavant

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#513: Dec 7th 2011 at 4:58:27 PM

Just watch the Sarah Palin scene and you'll know what I'm talking about. It is so funny.

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Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#514: Dec 7th 2011 at 5:27:25 PM

The Woolseyisms were great. Episode six had me drooling and laughing my arse off in equal measure.

edited 8th Dec '11 1:18:04 AM by Anfingrimm

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Flapjackmaka A Mulberry is a Tree... from Pennsylvania Since: Nov, 2011
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#515: Dec 7th 2011 at 6:05:39 PM

I agree with Red, The only ship I ship is Hirano x Saya. Rei can be annoying, if something traumatic happens to her (parents die or something) I could see not return to sanity.

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#516: Dec 7th 2011 at 8:51:37 PM

Saeko's English VA was a little off at first, but by the end... *drools*

Although it was a little funny just how much the elegant Lady of War swore in the English dub. "Jesus christ" seemed to be a particular favorite of hers. Also, I was so fucking happy they kept JAWOHL!

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Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#517: Dec 7th 2011 at 9:05:25 PM

Yeah, I think Taylor Hannah had a bit of trouble trying to get the naturally cool and stern voice right. Is she new to voice acting? I haven't heard her in anything else.

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#518: Dec 7th 2011 at 9:13:25 PM

I dunno. Not sure if Kouta's VA was new or not, but they pulled it off like a fucking boss. Those one-liners were just perfect.

"You want something to eat? How 'bout munching on some of these? Ready, aim, DINNER TIME!"

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Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#519: Dec 7th 2011 at 9:15:59 PM

The DOUBLE TAP line wasn't as good as in the original Japanese, though. sad

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#520: Dec 7th 2011 at 9:24:29 PM

Yeah, that did make me sad. But the best line of them all was (paraphrased), "I think he's (Shidou) kind of a douchebag." [lol][lol][lol]

Couldn't have said it better myself, Shizuka.

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Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#521: Dec 7th 2011 at 9:40:39 PM

In Monica Rial's best airhead voice: "I know I shouldn't be saying this, but Mr. Shidou is kind of a douchebag."

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TroperRoxas ... from Scotland Since: May, 2010
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#522: Dec 7th 2011 at 11:41:44 PM

So yeah, HOTD's dub is pretty awesome.

Anfingrimm Beardless from Australia Since: Jul, 2010
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#523: Dec 8th 2011 at 1:41:13 AM

Doesn't Hirano's VA sound delightfully insane at times? He reminds me of Ben Carmine.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#524: Dec 8th 2011 at 8:41:32 AM

^To be honest, I've got a major man-crush on Nobuyuki Hiyama's voice, so I've never really been that fond of Hirano's English VA...

It's been fun.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
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#525: Apr 29th 2012 at 3:58:28 PM

Sorry to those who will get excited and think the series picked back up. It hasn't. I just finished rewatching the anime and found something that wasn't discussed earlier.

When Hirano first explained how to use the Ithaca he explained how to use it for scouting, but not for the kind of distance combat that Takashi fights when saving Rei at the fence. Takashi doesn't connect the dots that Hirano expects him to, and Hirano overreacts, telling him he doesn't know how to use the gun when he's just following Hirano's instructions. This gets completely ignored by the anime after it's over. Does that event/set of events happen in the Manga, and if so, is it ignored there as well?

I have three interpretations of those events, each one a bit grimmer than the next.

1. This is clever foreshadowing of Saya and Hirano declaring Takashi the leader since he admits when he's wrong and doesn't overreact when others do something wrong that he might actually know how to get right. Both geniuses regularly snapped at people for being "idiots." This is my favorite interpretation, since it makes the mangaka very skilled at what they do.

2. Hirano's breakdown has already started, and he can't bear to think that he forgot to tell his teammate something important. Instead he chews the man out for not figuring it out on his own. This one skips out on the fact that between where they were sitting in the Hummer and the calmness of the morning, there was just no good reason/way for Hirano to finish instructing Takashi on weapons use.

3. The worst of them: Hirano left out knowledge on purpose, in a Xanatos Gambit to make the girls of the party like him more. If Takashi had been ambushed by Them and unable to kill many without being swarmed, he'd be gone. There'd be no rivals for the girls' affection. If he lived and came back down, then the next time the team faced Them, Hirano could simply chew out Takashi just like he did, thus possibly scoring a few points in the girls' eyes. Remember, the original conversation about weapons was most likely out of the girls' earshot, since Hirano wanted to peek at them as they dressed. The only part they'd catch would be the dressing down that Hirano gave Takashi in front of the fence.


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