Definition Needs To Be Reworked: Funny Animal

I feel like the description of the trope Funny Animal needs to be reworked to include a description on the contrast between their body shape and the body shape of Petting-Zoo People.

Here are the differences:

• Funny Animal: animal with a generally animal-shaped body who has a bipedal stance, does things humans do
• Petting-Zoo People: animal with a completely humanoid body with the animal's head and tail, often called a furry
• Kemonomimi: human with the ears and tail of an animal, Cat Girls are the most common example

edited 1st Nov '10 11:58:58 PM by EdnaWalker

That's a pretty clear distinction.

Accidental mistakes are forgivable, intentional ones are not.

I would like to point out that the fifty-fifty bits are the extreme for what we defined petting zoo people as. Felica from Dark Stakers would fall under there for instance because she's got enough cat traits that she can't hide them. Little Bit Beastly is only for things that could be covered up easily. Anything more than that even if they don't fall into the Star Fox category is in there.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Honestly, Felicia's an edge case. She has a larger share of cat traits (both physically and mentally) than the average animal-eared character, sure, but she also lacks the number one feature (the head and face) of Petting-Zoo People.

edited 2nd Nov '10 11:00:51 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

Head and face isn't what's needed. It's enough that it can't be hidden. The first trope is really only very minor animal traits. She's everything but head face and chest.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Hmm. I must've slept through that hour of the posting party.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

It's

• Little Bit Beastly: Minor easily hidden animal traits. (So that we could have character where they weren't ears and a tail but they were in the same vein like tentacle hair.)
• Petting-Zoo People: Major animal traits can't be hidden.
• Funny Animal: Mostly animal, but bipedal.

edited 2nd Nov '10 11:11:00 AM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

There are examples in Funny Animal that would fit better under Petting-Zoo People.

Then they need to be moved. Go ahead and move them. I'll help with the ones I know. They all need to be sorted now that we have the definitions straight.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

I moved a few examples in Funny Animal to Petting-Zoo People.

On the matter of Felicia: She is able to pass herself as fully human by dressing as a nun. The only aspect she can't hide is she's got a subtle nature rivaled only by cannon fire.

On the matter of Funny Animal: It does need some tweaks due to the changes to Petting-Zoo People. As do other pages connected to the change, I did something with the Sliding Scale but someone else could probably do better.

Who needs a signature, really?

I moved even more examples that were in Funny Animal into Petting-Zoo People.

^ That's why I called her an edge case — having the animal's full head is the most common characteristic of Petting-Zoo People since us humans identify characters face first.

I want to suggest something like "hooded cloak" as the litmus test discerning between animal-eared and PZP: If they can pass as sufficiently human underneath one, they're not PZP.

edited 3rd Nov '10 10:58:04 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

Stratadrake, could you please help me which examples in Funny Animal fit better Petting-Zoo People. I found a few and moved them to there.

Examples that were formerly in Funny Animal, but were moved to Petting-Zoo People:

• Blacksad
• Lackadaisy Cats
• Maus
• Usagi Yojimbo
• Minerva Mink from Animaniacs
• Bimbette and Julie Bruin from Tiny Toon Adventures

edited 3rd Nov '10 2:59:32 PM by EdnaWalker

Where is Felicia listed under?

Felicia can be listed under A Bit Beastly or Petting Zoo People (or both), she's the best example of a borderline case. I would list her under Petting-Zoo People if I had to pick between because she does have torso fur.

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I listed Felicia under Petting-Zoo People.

Where would Carl Barks' dognoses belong? Would they belong into the Petting-Zoo People trope like Goofy or Max, or Little Bit Beastly.

Dognoses look like people, except with dog noses and muzzles, and (usually) dog ears. The Beagle Boys are an example.

Petting-Zoo People.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Their body design is that of a stylised human and they definitely have animal heads, but their colouring seems to indicate a lack of fur, so I'd say, yes, they are Petting-Zoo People, but their lack of fur makes them borderline Little Bit Beastly.

Accidental mistakes are forgivable, intentional ones are not.

The Beagle Boys in Mickey Donald Goofy The Three Musketeers, unlike in Carl Barks' and Don Rosa's comics and Duck Tales, are grey, which is color that makes them look like they have fur.

Well, I guess which trope they fit into depends on the artist, then.

Accidental mistakes are forgivable, intentional ones are not.

"...makes them borderline..."

Toooooootally. That is a great example of characters that blur the line...

That was unnecessarily ranty. Just: if a character is arguably one or the other or it depends on the artist, there is nothing wrong with the example appearing on both articles.

edited 6th Nov '10 1:54:37 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

The thing is, unlike Goofy or Max, the Beagle Boys don't have anywhere near a human skeletal structure. They sport nobby cartoon legs and a larger torso.  ^*

They don't have the human proportions.  ^*

^{Only one characters in Duck Tales had such a bodytype requirement are Gyro Gearloose and Launchpad. And the feathers fit them squarely as Petting-Zoo People}

Sadly, most overweight Disney characters are made overweight in a way that would be inhuman on a real human (even the human characters). The willowy characters aren't ever drawn in such an off putting way.

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