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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1: Jul 21st 2022 at 2:45:40 PM

The flag here for FatherTucker was sent with the rationale

Please could this be investigated for potential 5P violations?

I am not familiar with the work, but I have read the work page and its YMMV page (which I'm also going to report). The work's description states that it's about a paedophilic priest who molests children in every episode and gets away with it; the description also warns that the work can get very graphic, so advises no direct linking to the videos. The page quote is also quite explicit: "A faith in God A friendly smile He'll warm your heart And rape your child!"

Some of the trope entries describe the behaviour he gets up to, including entries for tropes, such as:

  • Karma Houdini: The only real punishment Father Tucker gets is in "Come Let Us Adore Him", where he goes straight to Hell for molesting Baby Jesus, but even then he considers eternal damnation completely worth getting a chance to molest Baby Jesus.

The associated YMMV page doesn't have many entries, but does indicate how graphic the show can get:

  • Squick: "Blessed Are the Meek" is without a doubt the grossest episode of the series, which includes such graphic and sickening scenes as Father Tucker playing with discarded foreskins and drinking from a child's colostomy tube.

I have not gone in search of the work to investigate it myself because the trope entries on both the work page and the YMMV are informative enough to put me off even searching for it. I therefore think the two pages are informative enough by themselves for me to flag this even though I'm not familiar with the actual work.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Aug 23rd 2022 at 2:02:07 AM

Bumping...

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#4: Aug 23rd 2022 at 6:13:53 AM

From the tropes page it sounds like yet another "edgy" dark comedy rather than any serious pedopandering.

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#5: Aug 23rd 2022 at 6:33:21 AM

[up] That was my take, and if it's available on You Tube, then it's likely not cut-worthy.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#6: Aug 23rd 2022 at 6:39:04 AM

I saw a couple of episodes. The series is literally nothing but pedophile jokes but it isn’t cut worthy.

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#7: Aug 23rd 2022 at 2:11:23 PM

I'm surprised it made it onto Youtube in the first place. Disagree to cut.

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#8: Aug 23rd 2022 at 5:10:29 PM

It's just edgy humor, not pedo pandering.

Keep, painfully unfunny as it is.

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4maskwolf Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
#9: Aug 23rd 2022 at 5:24:35 PM

Since someone watched a couple episodes and confirmed the impression given by the tropes page my vote is keep. It sounds like (and probably is) dumb edgy nonsense with little artistic merit, but it's not pedo-pandering.

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#10: Aug 23rd 2022 at 9:23:41 PM

[up] The series isn’t any more graphic than say South Park or Family Guy (there is child nudity but no genitalia is shown and they aren’t drawn in a way that’s meant to be sexually appealing). Every joke is just “Father Tucker molests children”. It’s just another “edgy” webseries that confuses just being disturbing and offensive with Black Comedy.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Aug 23rd 2022 at 12:26:45 PM

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#11: Aug 24th 2022 at 2:02:48 AM

Keep. We sadly don't cut just because the jokes aren't funny.

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#12: Aug 26th 2022 at 4:22:12 AM

Keep

This work sounds nonsensical and really gross. But there doesn't seem to be anything actually content violating in it?

Edited by miraculous on Aug 26th 2022 at 4:22:28 AM

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#13: Aug 26th 2022 at 10:57:48 PM

It's a 2012 Flash animation following a priest (and one time a Pope Benedict stand-in as a former Nazi soldier?) with Creepy High-Pitched Voice voice abusing his position to do disgusting things (eating cut foreskin?! a dead kid being turned into a basketball?! force-feeding drugs?!) and doesn't bother hiding it, and somehow adults fail to realize the problem. Nothing explicit but there is lot of obvious off-screen molestation.

This sometimes felt like a pandering, but with everything being comically exaggerated and one episode being a clear Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog parody, I think it only intended to be as gross as possible with some degree of humor. So it's a "wish it was cut but there's not really anything policy-violating" from me.

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#14: Aug 27th 2022 at 12:16:16 PM

[up] Being painfully unfunny and mistaking being as disturbing and offensive as possible for “Black Comedy” are sadly not grounds to cut something.

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#15: Aug 27th 2022 at 12:25:44 PM

So is the page clean?

As otherwise I think we can lock this thread with consensus.

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#16: Aug 27th 2022 at 12:29:24 PM

I think "pretty graphic" in the description could be elaborated, as while it relies on Squick, there's nothing really NSFW imagery-wise. Beside that I think there's nothing to do, at least here.

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#17: Aug 27th 2022 at 12:41:36 PM

[up][up] I recently expanded the page. Nothing particularly rule violating. There is a lot of child nudity but nothing more graphic than bare asses are shown and they’re clearly drawn in the most squickish way possible.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Aug 27th 2022 at 3:48:58 PM

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#18: Aug 27th 2022 at 2:28:55 PM

Looks like we have a consensus that this isn't paedobait, and apparently there is little concern for the current state of the page. Disposing this as "keep", tagging and closing.

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