Unofficial Official Mega Man Thread

X6's story has some interesting elements but I find it hard to care still, honestly.

Since it's technically release day, i'm posting this video for your listening pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKfpfeL-pN4

The Red Hero is back.

Speaking of which, the Zero's theme of the Legacy Collection is rather disappointing. The main melody is drowned under the extra instrument.

Okay, i finally beat X6. That was some bullshit alright, spikes everywhere, a fucking collapsing ceiling, a boring and dull tennis fight with Gate, and then a laughably easy fight with Sigma.

Luckily as a veteran of the franchise, with i wanna be the guy, Mega Man Unlimited, and Kaizo Mario and other roms under my belt, i prevailed. It's not as hard as i was expecting it to be, yeah there are bullshit but nothing really too unmanageable.

Also Zero's ending suddenly has him sleep in a capsule after defeating Sigma, yeah i know it's meant to be years after this game, but man is it sudden, Gate is not resolved, the other hunters and X don't have a final good bye to him, nothing. Who even is the mystery scientist? Ciel's ancestor's uncle's cousin? Bah whatever, now it's on to Mega Man Zero. What a nostalgic party it's going to be, and after finally conquering X6 after kid me couldn't do it.

Also after going through translations, it seems that High Max was intended by Gate to control all of Reploid kind. Somehow. And that was Gate's endgame. Not sure how the investigators played into that but whatever.

Also hmmm, a floating hulking robot with a virus able to control reploids? Guess High Max is an early version of Omega's abilities. Except Weil used the real one while Gate just made his own.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 25th 2020 at 6:36:39 AM

Huh and the Nightmare could be early primitive cyber elves

They warp reality and change reploids and all that

If I recall the point of the investigators was to lure in reploids to be controlled by the Nightmare

It’s the flimsy explanation for why there’s so many rescue reploids floating everywhere

God I hate them

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 25th 2020 at 10:46:03 AM

>God I hate them

The Nightmares or the Rescue Reploids? I wouldn't blame you if you said both

I meant the rescue reploids but now that you mention it, yes both.

It'd be a bad enough mechanic if the developers hadn't in several situations placed nightmares right on top of rescue reploids.

And then X7 made the mechanic worse somehow

Launch Trailer for Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection!

...Apparently there's an ultra-secret NES mode for Z Chaser?

Man, it is just weird to put the Zero games on a big screen. Luckily, I have the Switch version.

Man, the more I learn about all the backstory details (Lost in Translation, as was the rule at the time) the more I wish for Mega Man to be given the Castlevania treatment.

I mean you tell me all that wouldn't make for a kickass story in the right hands? And I think Warren Ellis has worked on cyberpunk comics before so you wouldn't even need to look for someone else.

Another thought about X6

The two armors should have specialized either saber or buster to represent X taking up Zero's sword or sticking to his guns.

Maybe a third armor with a good strong blend or maybe the starting armor would have been that.

Another thought: What if Dynamo was a human? His sprite would have to be changed so he's not seven feet tall but it could explain why Sigma didn't infect him and just hired a mercenary. And it would add the element of 'WHY WOULD YOU WORK FOR HIM??'

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 25th 2020 at 3:11:15 PM

X8 is harder than X6 and twice as frustrating since it lacks X6's forgiving checkpoint system, with worse levels on top of that.

Got Zero collection and wow looking through the gallery really had some stuff stick out to me:

• The cyber elf designs in full are rather fun to look at. Totten's evolutions are probably my favorite, and the chameleon's evos look SUPER cool.
• It seems like Phantom's Armed P. form was intended to be in Zero 1? It's possible you were to supposed to fight it in his rematch which but this didn't make it in the final game, and would somewhat explain why he's the only one who dies.
• Neo Arcadia tower is built like a giant cross? That's awesome, but the misspelled "Heven" is total narm lol.

It's weird if Phantom is the only planned Armed Phenomenon in Z1.

I also bought the Zero/ZX Collection and went through half of Z1. Here's some thoughts.

The Save Assist is a godsend. It returns you to previous save point when you die (and there are many of them scattered around. You return to full health and suffer no penalty from your death (as in, your enemy score no longer reset to 0).

Controversial opinion time: I like the filter, it looks good on the big screen, except Zero's boots look kinda weird. I can understand not liking the filter if you're playing on a smaller screen, though.

Aztec Falcon took me 3 tries because he is the goddamn Aztec Falcon.

The Spike balls are even more annoying than I remember.

I freaking love the gallery. There are also new artworks I haven't seen.

The control is as perfect as I can hope for, though have some muscle memory issues since I played these games on Xbox controller, so I'm used to jumping and confirming being the same button. In the Switch version jumping and cancelling are the same button.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Feb 25th 2020 at 4:51:49 AM

Apparently people are having problems with the ZX Collection on steam because it won't start up properly if you already have a save file or something.

Hmm, the three legacy collections tend to have issues on Steam, don't they?

Games on PC having issues their console versions don't is almost standard at this point let's be real lol.

PC ports treat their audience like 2nd class citizens.

I beat Z1 in one sitting last night, and without using any elves either! I died against Falcon once, hanumachine 3 times, Rainbow devil once and Master X 3 times. Having to read through the intro dialogue EVERYTIME you fight X is pretty annoying and probably the only time the unskippable cutscene really bothered me in the game.

Also I never realized this before but you know how in the disposal center there's a cyber elf box on a ledge above a wall and under the wall there's one of those tower guys which you need to get on in order to reach it? Well before I would always get hurt and use the mercy invincibility to stand on top of him but last night I finally figured out you're supposed to use the triple rod's air +=down attack which causes you to repeatedly bounce on top of him and allow you to reach it when he rises upward.

I started Z2 last night too and I don't understand people who claim it's easier or more forgiving than Z1. It's much harder IMO though a lot of that is because of how much of it is designed to emphasize the chain rod, which I find clumsy and sections involving its use harder than than should be.

Also Z2 has that sky ship mission. Ugh. Yeah I think Z2 is my least favorite of the Z games, and I'm already remembering why.

Whew, i got my Copy on switch. It feels right you know?

Damn, what a blast from the past, and i shamefully admit, i died to Aztec Falcon like 4-7 times due to misjudging the hit boxes. Going from X to Zero immediately is sort of disorientating, but i managed to adjust, and am getting back to the groove, i've just gotten the game, but i'd rather take my time with each one and really get a feel for each game like the good old days.

Remember kids when slashing the boss as Zero, don't be me and realize you should stand next to the boss and not on them. This is what happens when you are too excited.

I just want to say, what a fucking god send that save point feature is, fuck the lives system.

Who else accidentally slashed Ciel when hitting the golem? ehehehehe. Seems fleshy humans can take lightsabers and walk it off.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 26th 2020 at 12:53:02 PM

At the very least, Zero 2 doesn’t have that ridiculous retry system.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Feb 26th 2020 at 6:20:49 AM

Considering you can use the savestate for this collection, that's no longer really a issue unless you want it to be Though personally I try not to use it and beat it the old fashioned way. Zero 1 I could do this without running out of retries but that's the only game I can.

Honestly I've stopped with Z2 and move on to 3. Fefnir's levels in 2 are super annoying, with his first being Platform Hell with no checkpoints except right outside his boss room and the fire temple once requiring you to aim those respawning bomb guys which is pretty frustrating, oh and having a chain rod segment at that. I got on fire temple but lost patience since using those bombs is pretty frustrating in there. It was fun in Magnion's level but not here. I might come back to it but for now I'm just sticking with Z3, which is my favorite Z-game and favorite Megaman game really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRXZ8rucVic

I'd like to change gears for a bit, and post this video of Mega Man X corrupted's boss fight for Strike. Who stole X's ultimate armor.

That's what it feels like to get hit by a nova strike.

Rie Tanaka (Ciel's VA) made a new cover of Freesia.

You ever think that Bass had to have been built sometime before or during Mega Man 6 since Wily was in jail after that?

And that he was just hanging around for six months with nothing to do probably literally vibrating with the thought that he'd get to fight Mega Man some day as soon as Wily broke out.

Hanging out with Burst Man, Junk Man, Cloud Man, and Freeze Man except they're all in power saving mode so he's just talking to a bunch of deactivated robots.

Freeze Man was his favorite though. He's the coolest.

And by the time the timer does tick down and they wake up and go break Wily out of jail, Bass has been waiting so long for Operation Pretend to Become Mega Man's Best Friend that he's just really shit at it.

He just shows up without saying anything and starts shooting at Mega Man while hopping in one spot. Because he's so excited for any kind of social interaction at all.

And even though this is the worst first impression of all, Mega Man has really low standards for what constitutes healthy social behavior because all of his first meetings with his estranged brother started with the guy hopping and shooting at him.

(And on the meta side of things, with Mega Man X coming out two years prior, people probably weren't looking at Bass and thinking 'ah traitor man' they were probably thinking he'd be like Zero, especially after going through a highway intro stage)

I can't believe Bass was around for at least six months and had nothing to do. Wily probably didn't leave any enriching activities for him to do. No wonder Bass is such a unruly children.

I just finished Z1... again. Copy X was a nightmare to face without a sub tank. His slide attack is so unpredictable, and the bastard gets invincibility frames when he switches weapon. If only that worked in the X series.

The seraph form is also a pain since I have trouble dodging the Beam Spam and the EX skill.

Now to Z2. I have to admit one thing. For all of Z1's big good ups, at least their is a Peninsula of Power Leveling to upgrade your saber.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Feb 26th 2020 at 2:35:15 AM

I was going to point out that Bass was probably asleep as well when it happened, but the idea that Wily was enough of an asshole that he didn't even bother to put Bass in any kind of Power Saving Mode seems somewhat in character for him, so I'll pull a Judge Mills Lane and allow it.