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In which we get updates from the lives of tropers. Kinda like Twitter with more than 140 characters, but less than a blog or LJ.

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Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 11th 2022 at 8:59:38 AM

melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#191151: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:38:38 PM

I'm sure plenty of people can do "focus on others" in a way that doesn't bug me, I just associate the more extreme end of it with moral authoritarianism. Self-centeredness, the way I'm thinking of it, kinda implies moral anarchy.

Er, I suppose I should clarify. By "self-centeredness" I mean "I act this way because it feels good to me/I know it is right for me/it's my fate"; "focus on others" is more like "I act this way because I control the condition/fate of others (for their own good)".

Blergh, still not quite what I wanted to say.

edited 10th Apr '11 10:39:15 PM by melloncollie

juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#191152: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:40:18 PM

Oh, in that case, I'm self-centered...unless you make a further correction. Which I won't see because Imma go to bed...probably.

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
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LolipodDistortion HIP HOP HIPSTER from Austin, Texas Since: Aug, 2010
HIP HOP HIPSTER
#191154: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:41:02 PM

Neither of those choices sounds very fun.

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#191155: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:41:39 PM

That's not what I mean when I say I am out for others. I choose to try and help anyone in my way. It's the fate I chose.tongue

Zyxzy Embrace the mindscrew from Salem, OR Since: Jan, 2001
LolipodDistortion HIP HOP HIPSTER from Austin, Texas Since: Aug, 2010
HIP HOP HIPSTER
#191157: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:42:42 PM

Why can't I just help people? Why do I have to control their fate?

Underneath the bridge The tarp has sprung a leak And the animals I've trapped have all become my pets
melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#191158: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:42:52 PM

Because you want other people to feel good or because it makes you feel good?

Er, helping people is kinda exerting some control over their condition. I suppose you're always going to be affecting other people's situation in some way but one doesn't have to do it with the intent of controlling them.

Like, helping people for the sake of helping them vs. helping them as a side effect of whatever your goal is.

edited 10th Apr '11 10:44:18 PM by melloncollie

LolipodDistortion HIP HOP HIPSTER from Austin, Texas Since: Aug, 2010
HIP HOP HIPSTER
#191159: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:44:02 PM

Yes, but you make it sound like the whole point is manipulating them, rather than just doing it for its own sake.

Underneath the bridge The tarp has sprung a leak And the animals I've trapped have all become my pets
melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#191160: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:45:04 PM

I dunno, I see those as the same thing.

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#191161: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:46:47 PM

So people should just go into isolation?

CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
Literally A Princess
#191162: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:46:57 PM

I always feel weird when I edit Wikipedia. It's like, I have nothing to contribute except fixing formatting or cleaning up something someone else fucked up.

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goodtimesfreegrog imokaywiththis.gif from Darkmere Since: Oct, 2010
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#191164: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:52:18 PM

Melloncollie: So, helping people is totalitarian because it makes others fit our own worldview better?

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#191165: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:54:02 PM

Though not helping people pretty much does the same thing.

melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#191166: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:55:52 PM

It's a character alignment chart guys, not a moral value judgment -___-;. None of the axes are inherently bad (lol Rorschach blots). And there is such a thing as moderation.

Gah what am I saying. I'm mixed up.

I don't feel that helping people is inherently totalitarian or whatever, I just said so that it's entirely possible for self-centered people to help others.

edited 10th Apr '11 11:03:26 PM by melloncollie

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#191168: Apr 10th 2011 at 10:58:26 PM

Charts are so much easier to understand when I can see them.

Iroquois what?

Zyxzy Embrace the mindscrew from Salem, OR Since: Jan, 2001
Embrace the mindscrew
#191169: Apr 10th 2011 at 11:01:38 PM

Lucky for him Raiden is so strangely selective in his movie interests.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#191170: Apr 10th 2011 at 11:04:33 PM

One more day till I get to launch my first trope!

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
goodtimesfreegrog imokaywiththis.gif from Darkmere Since: Oct, 2010
imokaywiththis.gif
#191173: Apr 10th 2011 at 11:07:46 PM

I should write that page for Rayman 2 today, it's not like I'll have anything better to do.

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Zyxzy Embrace the mindscrew from Salem, OR Since: Jan, 2001
goodtimesfreegrog imokaywiththis.gif from Darkmere Since: Oct, 2010
imokaywiththis.gif
#191175: Apr 10th 2011 at 11:18:25 PM

Raiden is just so incredibly thick.

Yes, especially his thighs.

Funfax: Kojima wanted to make Pliskin's disguise as transparent as possible to see if players would still think he wasn't actually Snake.

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