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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#101: Jan 24th 2011 at 10:22:56 AM

@Edmania: I'm not so sure. Blue and green don't have very much "contrast" to them (and let's admit it, they're right next to each other on the color wheel), so they don't visually convey the trope as well as other chromatic combinations.

edited 24th Jan '11 10:24:08 AM by Stratadrake

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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#102: Jan 24th 2011 at 10:32:31 AM

This trope is for wielding two complete opposite powers in conjunction with each other. A green and blue sword does not show that.

troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#103: Jan 24th 2011 at 11:52:54 AM

[up][up] Since when are blue and green next to each other on the color wheel? They're definitely enemy colors. Body and mind, land and sea, reality and illusion, instinct and intellect, nature and nurture, organic and artificial, etc.

That said, green and blue are perhaps not the best illustration of opposite forces for those unfamiliar with the game.

edited 24th Jan '11 11:53:27 AM by troacctid

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#104: Jan 24th 2011 at 11:54:45 AM

[up] Colour wheel. Notice how green is next to blue.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#105: Jan 24th 2011 at 11:57:51 AM

Magic The Gathering has a different color wheel.

edited 24th Jan '11 12:03:48 PM by Raso

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ButterflyFairweather Since: Dec, 1969
#106: Jan 24th 2011 at 11:58:55 AM

Yeah, green and blue might be opposing forces in M:TG (green vs blue/black, white vs red/black, blue vs red/green, red vs white/blue, black vs white/green), but they are not complementary (opposite) colors. The complement of blue is orange, and also blue vs red is a common dichotomy.

edited 24th Jan '11 12:03:02 PM by ButterflyFairweather

ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#107: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:11:04 PM

The average viewer will not know that.

ButterflyFairweather Since: Dec, 1969
#108: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:12:56 PM

They may not be able to describe the relationship that specifically, but the average viewer will know that the two colors on that sword don't look like opposite/enemy forces.

On the other hand, the Sword of Feast and Famine is (in context) green and black, which technically aren't opposites either, but looks fine.

edited 24th Jan '11 12:15:07 PM by ButterflyFairweather

ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#109: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:15:48 PM

Neither of them look like opposite forces.

The second one at least looks somewhat like light and darkness, but even then it just looks like two blades on the same sword, while not really being "clashing" against each other.

ButterflyFairweather Since: Dec, 1969
#110: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:20:25 PM

You really think this is good but the SoFaF is bad? Wow.

troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#111: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:24:14 PM

They aren't supposed to clash. They're supposed to be used together to create a more powerful attack than either alone.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#112: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:24:20 PM

[up][up] That is horrible.

[up] They're supposed to be two clashing elements that cause more damage because of they are polar opposites. Not just any combined attack.

edited 24th Jan '11 12:25:04 PM by shimaspawn

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ButterflyFairweather Since: Dec, 1969
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#114: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:31:32 PM

Some other ideas:

Marle and Lucca of Chrono Trigger casting the dual tech Antipode (Ice + Fire)

heres another, its a fanart though

TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
Diagonalizing The Matrix
#115: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:33:02 PM

Opposites? In Japan, Green and Blue are the same color.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#116: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:35:06 PM

Japanese are color blind? o_O

edited 24th Jan '11 4:36:54 PM by Ghilz

TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
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#117: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:36:36 PM

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#118: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:38:20 PM

Ah, you mean they have the same word for both colors. Thought you meant they saw them identical or something.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#119: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:39:02 PM

No, they just have the same word for it. It's like the difference between light blue and dark blue. Frankly I'd be pretty surprised if many languages had the exact same number of names for colors.

The example is not quite true though. Japanese has a word for "greenery" as in leaves, and they often use that to describe the color. Blue and leaf-blue, I guess you could say.

TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
Diagonalizing The Matrix
#120: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:42:06 PM

Wait, you mean like Pokemon Leaf Blue Pokemon Leaf Green?

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edited 24th Jan '11 4:43:42 PM by TripleElation

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#121: Jan 24th 2011 at 4:45:43 PM

Blue and green are close to each other on the color wheel. No one who doesn't play Magic The Gathering will think they're opposites, even if they're not considered the same.

I think the Feast and Famine sword is good though. Bright yellow and black-purple look opposed in that image.

edited 24th Jan '11 4:46:07 PM by Clarste

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#122: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:07:52 PM

I don't know. Sword of Feast and Famine looks more like a creeping dark, and a sickly green.

If I didn't already know the name of the card, I'd probably assume "Dark + Poison",

edited 24th Jan '11 6:08:53 PM by Enlong

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#123: Jan 24th 2011 at 6:09:48 PM

If I didn't know the name of the card I wouldn't think it was green at all. It's yellow, the same color as the sun in the background. It does look a bit sickly though, but that's mostly the hellish looking background.

Edmania o hai from under a pile of erasers Since: Apr, 2010
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#124: Jan 24th 2011 at 7:24:31 PM

The average viewer will not know that.

I don't think the average viewer is thinking "but wait, that doesn't make sense color-wheel-wise" either...

Hell there's always this stuff about red and blue things too even though red and green are supposed to be opposites...I think. I just remember that blue isn't the opposite to red.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#125: Jan 24th 2011 at 7:33:42 PM

Well, that's because of the Fire and Water connotations which are far more ingrained in the public conciousness than magic cards are.

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