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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#7601: Nov 27th 2020 at 1:29:45 AM

Remember that Lucia is an artificially created demon who was "disposed" of by Arius, which is how Matier found her.

It's entirely possible that Lucia is chronologically very young, appearance aside. Matier likely didn't hide the truth from her for that long.

Heck, Trish is likely in a similar boat - it's possible that Mundus may have created her just days before she met Dante.

Maybe V isn't the first character in this series to be much Younger Than They Look.

Though I kind of wonder what a Dante who was "driven mad with devotion" would look like.

It's more like the artist is driven mad by all of the new ideas the Leanan sĂ­dhe keeps shoving in their head. So you don't really have to imagine it - it'd basically be Dante doing this, but forever:

her personality and Ms. Fanservice looks are what is commonly associated with sucuubi.

Which makes it extra hilarious that Dm C's Succubus Poison is anything but. Though one has to remember that Succubi in folklore act through dreams. So maybe Poison can still look beautiful when seducing people in their dreams.

Edit:

Now that I think about it, maybe the Younger Than They Look thing is part of why Dante doesn't want to pursue a relationship with Lucia. He'd feel like a cradlerobber. As for Trish...I think the "looks like my mother" thing is more than enough of a turn-off already.

Edited by M84 on Nov 27th 2020 at 5:51:46 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7602: Nov 27th 2020 at 2:17:23 AM

I'll give Dm C this when it came to Lilith going with tired burnout pornstar over Morrigan Aensland Megamilf edition was an interesting one.

Sadly it didn't help the boss battle

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#7603: Nov 27th 2020 at 2:36:26 AM

Ya fight the womb baby.

........ Man imagine how powerful that thing would have been if it grew up.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#7604: Nov 27th 2020 at 3:02:58 AM

My headcanon of DMC 2 is one that is a bit more canon-applicable than my "Dante sex monster" thoughts.

Dante's personality and lust are way off because he just killed his brother.

His mood is SERIOUSLY down.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#7605: Nov 27th 2020 at 3:22:17 AM

DMC 2 takes place after 1. A prequel novel had Dante go to an alternate universe where he had to fight and kill an evil version of Trish. That's why he was so sullen.

Admittedly, I think Dante's depression in 2 is very overstated.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7606: Nov 27th 2020 at 3:34:58 AM

I mean if you don't even have to buy the Dante Self-loathing ANGSTER with Zero social skills view the side material keep painting him as cause thats Bingo's fetish... Look the guy struck gold with Vergil's character revamp for DMC 3... everything else... not so much

if you take the games at face value

DMC 3: Cocky and self absorbed but Mans up seeing Lady's drive to set things right.

DMC 1: Still Cocky since he runs off to an obvious trap just for the chance to kill Mundus, Doesn't Kill Mundus, Apparently Kills Vergil for real and gets stuck with Trish... 'They ever explain what exactly revived Trish from Mundus killing her? Did the Sparda do it? Frankly she should have just stayed dead...

DMC 2: Is literally Dante in grieving mode but he still functions to save people and help others. like with Lady, Lucia running around being selfless motivates Dante and by the end of the game he seems to be at peace. - Fuck Before the Nightmare, Dante came back to Lucia at the end of DMC 2-

DMC 4: Dante really gets his smile back with finding out about Nero... to the point he can just leave Yamato with the kid since in away a part of Vergil lives on.

DMC 5: Dante is at his most irrational cause Vergil 'as far as he can figure' is pulling a 3... AGAIN except this time he is getting people killed on Purpose, harvesting them. Dante may have justified his brother's actions in 3 and with his death in 1 built him up as this tragic figure in his head... but this, Vergil has become no better than Mundus. The Asshole who ruined their lives out of spite for their father. Vergil is ruining peoples lives just to one up HIM.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#7607: Nov 27th 2020 at 3:49:26 AM

Heck in 5 Dante still tries to talk down Urizen and is horrified when Urizen actually eats the Qliphoth Fruit. That is the moment Dante completely gave up on Vergil.

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Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010
#7608: Nov 27th 2020 at 5:21:51 AM

Another thing to factor for Dante's closed off nature in 2 is that most of the demon bosses don't even speak. Only so much witty banter and antics you can dish out when your opposition can't even react to any of them. Note how he becomes a little more Dante-ish when dealing with Arius.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7609: Nov 27th 2020 at 5:59:36 AM

I mean Even Phantom doesn't talk... and he wouldn't fucking shut up

then again the one demon that does say anything to him...

gets

"Don't talk, Just Die." though it is Trismagia so.... Fuck Trismagia

Granted the actual reason isn't due to trauma or anything...

The Original Director 'WHO SHALL HAVE HIS NAME BLOATED FROM HISTORY" just didn't like Trash Talking Dante all that much and felt he needed to be a more traditional style badass of the Calm and reserved variety...

You know it worked for Samus

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#7610: Nov 27th 2020 at 6:40:36 AM

So last page about the exception of ugly demoness was interesting. Impressive that what made this thread active in the last 12 hours.


[up]

Kamiya or that other guy that no knows about?

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7611: Nov 27th 2020 at 7:02:43 AM

... I said original and even made a joke about his Unpersoned nature

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, Bitch!
#7612: Nov 27th 2020 at 7:14:38 AM

Hideki Kamiya Directed DMC 1. Hence the confusion when you described Original director and didn't say DMC 2 anywhere.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#7613: Nov 27th 2020 at 7:14:51 AM

[up][up][up]Heck, Mundus is no exception either. While he initially presents himself as an awe inspiring angelic statue, as befitting his god complex, it's literally only skin-deep. Under that statue exterior he's a disgusting Blob Monster.

Edited by M84 on Nov 27th 2020 at 11:15:02 PM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#7614: Nov 27th 2020 at 7:23:02 AM

You'd think a demon wouldn't care if people find him repulsive. I guess even lords of hell can feel image cautious. tongue

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#7615: Nov 27th 2020 at 7:28:10 AM

Like I said, it's all about his god complex. Mundus' preferred form is a massive angelic statue - he likes playing up the image of divinity.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#7616: Nov 27th 2020 at 8:55:11 AM

Him and Sanctus should get along great then.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#7617: Nov 27th 2020 at 1:13:03 PM

Yes, Dante killed his brother in DMC 1.

He only kicked Vergil's ass in 3.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#7619: Nov 27th 2020 at 11:17:17 PM

So is that like a set-up for Dante to taunt like that or does he always respond like that?

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7620: Nov 28th 2020 at 1:40:51 AM

He only does it at SSS rank

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7621: Nov 28th 2020 at 6:24:44 AM

So we was discussing Pyron from Darkstalker and how he is apparently a nod to the idea that the Antichrist will be a Cosmic being from Mars

... which was Argosax's True form based on the same idea?

LunaStar Since: Nov, 2020 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#7622: Nov 28th 2020 at 6:32:58 AM

Argosax's appearance might be a reference to the biblical Legion, which was a being composed of multiple demons possessing a single man in the Gospel of Luke. Jesus meets the man in his possessed state and when he asked his name, the demon responded, "My name is Legion; for we are many." The demons begged Jesus to spare them the tortures of Hell and he banished the demons into a group of pigs, which drowned themselves in the Sea of Galilee.

Both Argosax and Legion are made up of multiple demons and both Argosax and Legion possessed a man and drove him insane.

I'm probably wrong on this one.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7623: Nov 28th 2020 at 7:24:57 AM

I think if the idea it was based on Legion its true form would have been even more of your powers combined boss. though would you really want that type of bullet hell from Griffon and Nefas?

Then again We're speculating on a about a six months worth of developed game.

I wouldn't be surprised if alot of it was Thats good just put it in at the end.

Then again Alot of the DMC 2 bosses do have thought into them and their creation... its just most of them are piss poor boss fights

Like Furiataurus works really well

His a Minotaur obviously but he has the same torture device aesthetic as the Finis Demons due to being based on the Brazen Bull Aka the Bull Shaped oven that people would be sacrificed in.

in alot of ways 2 has a some great ideas, Demon possessing a Skyscraper to fight you... it just happens alot of it is clunky or looks likes from Resident evil or Ninja Gaiden -Infested Tanks and Chopper-

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#7624: Nov 28th 2020 at 5:16:35 PM

I can definitely tell you that there have been no B.O.W tanks in RE yet.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#7625: Nov 28th 2020 at 9:53:25 PM

Nero crosses a Dark Ritual!

Uncle Dante introduces Nero to his New Girlfriend... She's a Princess Dante has hit the jackpot XD

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They kept Nero's Devil Trigger consistent

I assume the biosheth is lost due to the fact Red Queen isn't a devil arm

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Nov 28th 2020 at 12:07:54 PM


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