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Oct 8th 2018 at 2:18:47 AM

I don't think they'll have more chemistry (and romantic chemistry and platonic chemistry are rather different anyway) but I'm sure that won't stop a ton of people from shipping them.

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 8th 2018 at 2:23:54 AM

It doesn't help that Itsuno apparently included Nico because he has a thing for women like her, according to her Wiki page.

Here's the page

According to Itsuno, Nico was created to have a supporting character for Nero, he mentioned that he thought Kyrie wouldn't be the type that would go out there and help him in fights, and that Kyrie is "the most important thing" to Nero.[3]

One of Itsuno's inspiration in creating Nico was also his weird fetish for being scolded by "bad girls".[1]

Disgusted, but not surprised
Oct 8th 2018 at 3:01:23 AM

That right there shows the issue with the writing around Kyrie - the writers donít see her as a person, only a thing.

Rynnec Killing is my business Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Killing is my business
Oct 8th 2018 at 3:03:04 AM

I don't know, the fact that they didn't shoehorn her in this games plot because it'd be out of character for her shows they do actually respect her as a character to some extent.

[down]Hence why I said "to some extent".

Edited by Rynnec on Oct 8th 2018 at 5:30:13 AM

"I'll show you fear, there is no hell, only darkness." My twitter
M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 8th 2018 at 3:15:30 AM

Except she barely had much of a character beyond being a Damsel in Distress. Which is even more jarring considering every other female character in this series.

This game was an opportunity to add some more depth to her. Come to think of it, how often does she actually show up in the trailers?

At least we know she isn't fridged or anything, given that Nero probably wouldn't be nearly as chipper in various trailer scenes if that were the case.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Oct 8th 2018 at 4:08:11 AM

Although that "most important thing to Nero" line briefly made me think of them pulling an Injustice: Gods Among Us with her.

Oct 8th 2018 at 4:27:00 AM

wild mass guessDante will explain his stoic Vergil-like behavior in 2 as him trying out a new gimmick in hope for clients to take him seriously and thus hopefully more profit, but it didn't work out so he dropped the persona.wild mass guess

Edited by UltraWanker on Oct 8th 2018 at 11:26:49 AM

Rynnec Killing is my business Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Killing is my business
Oct 8th 2018 at 5:00:45 AM

I'm of the theory that Dante was super stoic and serious in 2 out of a combination of boredom, and being dangerously close to poverty that he took a job on the furthest reaches of the world simply because it was the most lucrative one at the time. His coin-tossing gimmick was actually a coping mechanism to distract him from impending homelessness and going to hell was an extra measure to ensure that he would get extra reward money to keep a roof over his head.

Lack of income is Dante's true greatest foe.

"I'll show you fear, there is no hell, only darkness." My twitter
FrozenWolf2 Avatar of War from Have you seen me?
Avatar of War
Oct 8th 2018 at 5:28:50 AM

Apparently the Novel prelude to 2 'yes DMC has novels'

Basically Another Trish shows up but this Trish is 100% loyal to Mundus and despite all of Dante's efforts She forces him to Kill her in self defense.

So Dante is rather dour about that.

Frankly... I kinda like the notion of Dante in 2 being much older and is so apathetic to the demons cause he's basically top of the food chain and is only on the Island cause its the chance to face one last foe that his Father Fought.

_____

I'm gonna be blunt, Kyrie does not need to be turned into an Action Girl

That said You could easily have her be a mission control like figure and still keep Nico

Kyrie is suppose to be alot more devout and the Order was collecting alot of Demonic lore

Her being your Demon encyclopedia wouldn't be that much of a stretch.

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Oct 8th 2018 at 7:35:35 AM

"But old memories seldom fade and bad habits die hard."
M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 8th 2018 at 6:46:17 AM

Nobody is saying she has to be an Action Girl. She just needs to be in the game and get some Character Development.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ShirowShirow Be creative from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Be creative
Oct 8th 2018 at 10:44:58 AM

Kyrie doesn't need to wall jump and swing around a warhammer to improve as a character (Although it wouldn't hurt) but right now she almost literally doesn't have a personality.

She does not react like a normal human person reacts to things. Her brother turned into a demon and died in DMC 4 remember? Apparently her reaction to that wasn't considered important.

Compare that to how they introduce, say, Dante and Trish in one of the best character establishments in video game history back in the first DMC.

He'd want you do be doing something awesome right now.
M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 8th 2018 at 9:02:17 PM

Shifting gears a bit, it seems that Matt Walker confirmed on Twitter that the game will run at 4K@60fps on Playstation 4 Pro.

[up]The lack of characterization is especially jarring considering every other female character in the series gets some.

Edited by M84 on Oct 9th 2018 at 12:04:02 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Oct 8th 2018 at 9:57:33 PM

I recall reading this DMC/Bayonetta fanfic where Kyrieís singing was part of some kind of ritual that held up a protective barrier around Fortuna.

Iíd have liked to see an idea like that integrated into the game. Like Kyrie records her singing into tapes that Nico remodels into bombs. When they detonate, the magic of Kyrieís voice recording destroys demons.

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 8th 2018 at 10:59:52 PM

I mean, they have a radio. Kyrie could just broadcast her singing or something.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ShirowShirow Be creative from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Be creative
Oct 9th 2018 at 9:23:26 PM

[up][up] That's boring. Throw some handwavium around ("We need to capture the SOUL of the song!") and give me my Kyrie record bombs that would be hilarious.

[up] BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES.

He'd want you do be doing something awesome right now.
VutherA Thank you, Monty Oum. from Canada Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Thank you, Monty Oum.
Oct 9th 2018 at 9:26:22 PM

Kyrie's mixtape is straight holy fire

Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Grant us eyes
Oct 9th 2018 at 9:38:17 PM

[up][up]Devil Arm Radio that can shoot it out as a soundwave, or concentrate it as a sound bomb. Call it Siren.

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
Oct 9th 2018 at 9:52:51 PM

Or a an ipod that boosts Nero's stats depending on the song he listens to.

VutherA Thank you, Monty Oum. from Canada Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Thank you, Monty Oum.
Oct 9th 2018 at 9:53:51 PM

The ultimate song is, of course, Devil Trigger.

TheGunheart Some nights I rule the world... from on the street.
Some nights I rule the world...
Oct 9th 2018 at 10:30:00 PM

Now I'm having the silly headcanon that Devil Trigger is in fact an in-universe single by Kyrie after her musical style went through a major Genre Shift.

"If you're out here why do I miss you so much?"
Naspah Obsessively hungry from My house in the middle of nowhere Relationship Status: Californicating
Obsessively hungry
Oct 9th 2018 at 10:45:05 PM

[up][up][up]I wouldn't be against the idea of them continuing that series after DMC 5.

[up]I dig it. Her wanting to distance herself from the organization that got her brother killed as much as possible wouldn't be unreasonable.

shiiit arrows are messed up

Edited by Naspah on Oct 9th 2018 at 11:08:57 AM

FIGHTING GOOOOOOOLD!
Oct 9th 2018 at 11:17:07 PM

[up][up]Something tells me it might not have been a huge hit given the whole climate of "Oh my god, oh my god, demons from hell are invading the Earth. Oh my god!".

[up]I feel bad for the poor bastards who worked for that organization but didn't know about Sanctus' schemes. You know they have a nightmare of a time explaining the reasons for why they left their previous job.

M84 Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Freedom is the right of all sentient beings
Oct 10th 2018 at 12:00:44 AM

I'm pretty sure they left that out of their resumes.

Disgusted, but not surprised
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I'm No One Special. Just a Passing Pro Wrestler.
Oct 10th 2018 at 12:03:30 AM

Ya know it is nice that Kyrie regularly pulls Nero's Devil Trigger.

Its good that they have a healthy relationship. tongue


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