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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#3951: Aug 2nd 2010 at 10:23:49 AM

^I think I saw that Shiori's Pactio number was XXXII, or 32. Seems to me like that means she's in the class now.

OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#3952: Aug 2nd 2010 at 11:32:41 AM

PS: I think you meant "expectations" instead of "expectatives". And there's one instance where I think you meant "magister" instead of "minister".

I corrected the 'magister' mistake, thanks. Also, I'm not too sure about 'expectations' since English isn't my native tongue. I have seen it written both ways, is 'expectatives' really wrong?

Ack Sed, after I'm done with the epilogue, I'd still like to take you on that offer to correct my drafts into pieces for FF.Net submission, if you still are up for it.

After I'm finished, I've been thinking of following up with either another series of vignettes, this time centered on 'What If' crossovers built around a framing device, or a stab at a multipart ongoing retelling with a twist.

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
#3953: Aug 2nd 2010 at 12:11:10 PM

Unnecessary Greek lesson coming right away. It might be easier to remember Cosmo Enchilada Entelecheia by associating it to its meaning. It either means "Final purpose of the world" or "Final purpose of order" (order as opposed to chaos). Both are totally awesome. :D

arimnaes Falls Up Since: Apr, 2009
Falls Up
#3954: Aug 2nd 2010 at 12:11:44 PM

Based on the context, I'd say "expectations" is the word you're looking for. "Expectatives" isn't a word, to my knowledge, since "expectative" is not a noun but rather an adjective meaning "of or pertaining to expectation."

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
#3955: Aug 2nd 2010 at 12:32:58 PM

Since we're on the subject, "expectative" is a literal translation of how you say "expectation" in neo-latin languages (I'm Italian). The troper who said it is from Venezuela, right?

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#3956: Aug 2nd 2010 at 1:09:21 PM

@D Omen: I perfectly understand what "Cosmo Entelecheia" means. If Akamatsu hasn't made that clear, then the online translators certainly have. The issue was that it took me an absurdly long amount of time to pronounce it right. And I'm never calling it "Final purpose of the world" or any of that bullcrap because "Cosmo Entelecheia" sounds 10x more badass.

DOmen Since: Jul, 2010
#3957: Aug 2nd 2010 at 1:19:11 PM

Of course it does, I was just saying that the actual meaning is a lot more epic than Cosmo Enchilada. XD

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#3958: Aug 2nd 2010 at 1:23:28 PM

The only problem I noticed on the flowchart when I put it up is that the arrow from "Already Did It - Yes" should go to "FIGHT" rather than "Training from Hell". The whole "is she a relative" thing only applies to Chao and Asuna, and he didn't really have an "Oh Crap" moment in either case. I didn't bother with the whole "Massive misunderstanding" thing because he ultimately solves the problem through violence or pactio anyway, and the "romantic moment" is usually either not involved in the problem solving process, and if it is, it's because it leads to a pactio. Also, I'm trying to make the chart as simple as possible because it's funnier that way, so it's not completely accurate. It's more of a general rule thing.  *

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I don't see Fate joining the class, mainly because he has absolutely zero reason to do so. The only possible means would be if he gets hit by the same curse as Eva, and I don't see that happening. It would be too much of a slap on the wrist for all the trouble he's caused. Luna/Shiori definitely could get in, though. I mean, the pactio card number pretty much guarantees her a spot.

I'm still calling it Cosmo Enchilada, because it's funnier, and easier to spell.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#3959: Aug 2nd 2010 at 2:20:36 PM

Excuse me, I hope you do not mean to imply that enchiladas are not sufficiently epic.

edited 2nd Aug '10 2:20:49 PM by Arha

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#3960: Aug 2nd 2010 at 4:11:51 PM

Don't worry, no one here doubts its humourous epicness. wink cool

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#3961: Aug 2nd 2010 at 4:24:42 PM

Since we're on the subject, "expectative" is a literal translation of how you say "expectation" in neo-latin languages (I'm Italian). The troper who said it is from Venezuela, right?

Yes, that is right. Thanks for the info to everyone who spoke about it.

AckSed Pat. St. of Archive Binge from Pure Imagination Since: Jan, 2001
Pat. St. of Archive Binge
#3962: Aug 2nd 2010 at 4:27:37 PM

I'd still like to take you on that offer to correct my drafts into pieces for FF.Net submission, if you still are up for it.
Will do. PM me with the pieces.

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#3963: Aug 2nd 2010 at 4:34:44 PM

^ Thank you! I will do it after I finish the last one.

n00bguy from pure madness Since: Jun, 2010
#3964: Aug 2nd 2010 at 5:22:41 PM

@Radical Taoist-

Who else suspects Fate or Shiori (well, at least Shiori) will become students at Mahora come the end of summer? Someone's gotta fill Chao's seat.
I had a similar theory about Fate and his minions ending up attending Mahoura. Only real difference was I just imagined him being put in Kotaro's class. For some reason I always thought it would be hilarious if for some convoluted reason Negi had to be a substitute teacher for Kotarou's class and for some reason it would turn out that some of the students actually had similar personalities to different students in 3-A. I know that sounds pretty weird huh?tongue

It was more like a large hunk of iron in the shape of a sword.
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#3965: Aug 2nd 2010 at 6:06:50 PM

If that scenario actually took place, who else thinks that Kotaro would be horribly behaved. Would probably start a fight with Negi or something.

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mega-dark Moe Game Console from Planeptune Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#3966: Aug 2nd 2010 at 7:28:14 PM

Most fans believe Negi will hit Fate with a big non lethal spell. Team up with him and fight the true big bad. Fate ends up going to working for the government, and then save another Macgruff who has four knights. And in the future they will run a secret organization that will stop another government conspircy Either that or open a toco stand and name it cosmo enchilada.

edited 2nd Aug '10 7:28:45 PM by mega-dark

Hyped for Hyperdimension Neptunia V 2
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#3967: Aug 2nd 2010 at 9:19:56 PM

*snaps fingers* Got it!

In order to teach him humanity, after sealing up most of his power, the authorities force Fate to become Negi's teaching assistant.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
n00bguy from pure madness Since: Jun, 2010
#3968: Aug 3rd 2010 at 2:55:57 AM

^ and when Ayaka notes how close they are, Paru will set up a series of events and/or make some comments that will convince Ayaka they're yaoi guys.evil grin Edit: @Japanese Teeth- oh yes, and Negi would probably have to give the entire class a death glare with those same evil black eyes Eva does all the time to make them STFU and pay attention. admit it. it would be funnier then hellevil grin

edited 3rd Aug '10 3:01:24 AM by n00bguy

It was more like a large hunk of iron in the shape of a sword.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#3970: Aug 3rd 2010 at 1:20:15 PM

I can see it now:

  • Negi: Please don't talk in class, Kotaro-kun.

  • Kotaro: Oh, come on. You really think you can waltz in here and act like the teacher? Even if you weren't only as old as me, you'd still just be a substitute.

  • Negi: Kotaro-kun, if you continue I will have to issue you a detention. Please be quiet.

  • Kotaro: Make me.

*beatdown commences*

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#3971: Aug 3rd 2010 at 8:12:24 PM

Nah, he'll just need to do this:

Negi: Very well. I'm sure that Chizuru-san wouldn't mind knowing of your class behaviour.

Kotarou: ACK! Okay okay okay! I'll be good! Just don't tell her!!!

edited 3rd Aug '10 8:12:43 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#3972: Aug 3rd 2010 at 8:16:22 PM

Why to waste a perfectly good chance to fight, however? grin

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#3973: Aug 3rd 2010 at 8:37:44 PM

Because he would like to set a good example to his students: "When in school, disputes should always be resolved peacefully; violence is to be reserved as the last resort among a hundred different ones."

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#3974: Aug 3rd 2010 at 8:40:39 PM

^ That's SO start of the series Negi. Right now he follows the Nanoha School of Befriending and Setting Examples. tongue

edited 3rd Aug '10 8:41:24 PM by OverMaster?!

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#3975: Aug 3rd 2010 at 8:54:59 PM

^ And can you name one time that he followed that approach in a strictly academic/class issue?

edited 3rd Aug '10 8:55:16 PM by MarqFJA

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