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#1: Nov 2nd 2010 at 8:23:37 PM

I honestly thought this was a bad typo when I first saw it. Seriously, we need a much better train pun.

Did Not Work On The Railroad? Flunked Basic Training (horrible, I know)? Trains Do Not Work That Way?

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#2: Nov 3rd 2010 at 5:36:25 AM

Trains Do Not Work That Way is probably the better name, but I gotta say, I love Flunked Basic Training.

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#3: Nov 3rd 2010 at 5:42:47 AM

If you wanted a snow clone Just Train Wrong would work better.

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#4: Nov 3rd 2010 at 5:47:34 AM

We don't have a Flunked Basic Training trope already (literal version)? wow.

I like Trains Do Not Work That Way although I would hate to snowclone.

edited 3rd Nov '10 5:51:11 AM by Raso

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#5: Nov 3rd 2010 at 6:32:42 AM

I dislike Flunked Basic Training because it will get confused with its literal meaning.

You're going to hate me for this pun, Loco Locomotives.

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#6: Nov 3rd 2010 at 6:42:25 AM

You Fail Basic Training Forever I believe is the actual trope. If we snowclone off that it's going to confuse people. Just Train Wrong is great for the pun alone.

edited 3rd Nov '10 6:43:00 AM by Fighteer

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#7: Nov 3rd 2010 at 10:09:18 AM

Anyone wanna crown this? Last time I tried crowning I was confronted with an enclosed instruction book that was shinty-six pages long and I'm pretty sure it had ???? as step two.

I like Just Train Wrong best.

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#9: Nov 3rd 2010 at 10:29:16 AM

Attached a crowner. I'm skipping the rename proposal in this case because I think we're pretty much in agreement that the existing title is awful.

edited 3rd Nov '10 10:29:25 AM by Fighteer

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#10: Nov 3rd 2010 at 10:31:49 AM

Dammit, you're fast, Fighteer.cool

edited 3rd Nov '10 10:31:57 AM by Madrugada

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#11: Nov 3rd 2010 at 10:39:54 AM

And it actually works with Just Plane Wrong.

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#12: Nov 3rd 2010 at 10:52:39 AM

...Though the pun isn't as Made Of Win as Just Plane Wrong.

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edited 3rd Nov '10 10:53:06 AM by Stratadrake

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#13: Nov 3rd 2010 at 10:59:29 AM

Attached a crowner. I'm skipping the rename proposal in this case because I think we're pretty much in agreement that the existing title is awful.

Yeah you're in agreement that it's a bad pun and a snowclone so you're changing it to a bad pun and a snowclone. Not being a bad pun and snowclone that suits your tastes isn't a rename reason.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#14: Nov 3rd 2010 at 11:00:00 AM

Put it on the crowner if you like it.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#15: Nov 3rd 2010 at 11:01:31 AM

The problem that Did Not Choo The Research has that Just Train Wrong doesn't is that Choo gives no context of what it's about, while Train does. I originally though it was going to be about Asian names the make Choo part of it.

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Nov 3rd 2010 at 11:43:59 AM

And My first thought was "designer shoes?" "Choo-choo" would be much clearer that it was about trains, but "choo"? — too many possibilities, not enough context.

edited 3rd Nov '10 11:44:08 AM by Madrugada

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#17: Nov 3rd 2010 at 11:46:44 AM

OK so Fighteer was post 9, I was post 13 and arguments with words and reasons are appearing in 15 and 16.

Did Not Choo Choo The Research. He he.

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#18: Nov 3rd 2010 at 1:42:47 PM

What's wrong with Trains Do Not Work That Way? It's barely a snowclone at all, being Exactly What It Says on the Tin. All these other names are just as bad as the original for being obtuse and indecipherable.

Want to rename a trope? Step one: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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#20: Nov 3rd 2010 at 2:28:04 PM

Just Plane Wrong works because it puns off a homophone, something that "Just Train Wrong" doesn't. Besides, we don't need any potential confusion over "train" (noun) versus "train" (verb), which is why puns like You Need More Training don't work.

edited 3rd Nov '10 8:50:17 PM by Stratadrake

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#21: Nov 3rd 2010 at 2:52:25 PM

Train and Plane rhyme though.

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#22: Nov 3rd 2010 at 4:36:49 PM

^ Assuming you've read Just Plane Wrong first to know where the snowclone came from. Which isn't an issue for many of us regular Tropers, but a first-time user (which we're supposedly writing for) may not get it.

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Nov 3rd 2010 at 4:49:59 PM

We can't help the fact that train can mean two different things but somehow humanity survives.

This was a matter of some debate some time ago but the general movement was that our titles have to work if they are being used around the wiki in sentences and the like and, to put it simply, have to be better than dead space. They should, in context, give an indication of what you are talking about so that the person can continue to read the page without confusion.

By this standard train (fitness) and train (locomotive) isn't going to be an issue because we won't have a blank page with just Just Train Wrong floating in the middle.

It's not a very good pun though: "Just Plain Wrong" isn't a "stock" enough phrase nor long enough to make the substitution apparent.

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#24: Nov 3rd 2010 at 4:51:42 PM

Oh yes and I use the same standard to say that nobody has demonstrated any actual problem with the name and just because one thought of shoes when it was just a single phrase floating around on an empty paragraph doesn't mean anything.

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#25: Nov 3rd 2010 at 5:14:13 PM

Just Train Wrong is the best so far, but Did Not Work On The Railroad is close.

edited 3rd Nov '10 5:14:36 PM by FarseerLolotea

AlternativeTitles: DidNotChooTheResearch
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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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