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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#251: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:04:44 PM

[up] Personally, I'm imagining Benedict Cumberbatch as the Doctor...

karasu91 Who, *moi*? from Sol 3 (Gaia), Milky Way Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#252: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:11:20 PM

[up]Yeah, could definitely work... But I'm rooting for either Benedict Cumberbatch as The Master or as The Valeyard. But seriously, I can definitely see Matt Smith as Moriarty. Would have been very different, but still awesome.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#253: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:15:05 PM

Would love to bring the Valeyard back with Cumberbatch.

You guys know Matt Smith read for John? Totally didn't work, especially against Benedict, but if they hadn't already cast Sherlock, Smith would have been put in the running.

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TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#254: Jan 21st 2012 at 1:43:18 PM

Wasn't it running for the role of John that brought Matt Smith to Steven Moffat's attention in the first place?

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#255: Jan 21st 2012 at 1:44:33 PM

Possibly. The auditions were within a few days of each other.

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#256: Jan 22nd 2012 at 4:38:24 AM

Why is Mycroft considered Brilliant, but Lazy? Are people really insinuating that essentially running the ENTIRE BRITISH GOVERNMENT from behind the scenes is somehow not hard work? [lol]

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
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#257: Jan 22nd 2012 at 4:46:53 AM

It is just the British government. He's clearly not doing a very good job of it.

edited 22nd Jan '12 4:47:06 AM by Nicknacks

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zam Since: Jun, 2009
#258: Jan 22nd 2012 at 5:55:10 AM

If only I could understand the finer points of your satirical comment.

edited 22nd Jan '12 5:57:58 AM by zam

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#259: Jan 22nd 2012 at 6:05:43 AM

[up][up][up] He's Mycroft. That's why it's not hard work.

gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#260: Jan 22nd 2012 at 6:31:21 AM

[up] What?

That's something. Mycroft is supposed to be about as smart as Sherlock, right? (I've actually heard that he's even SMARTER) I'd like to see more displays of this supposed intelligence next season.

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TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#261: Jan 22nd 2012 at 6:35:26 AM

[up] He managed to kidnap Moriarty of all people after the Adler incident.

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#262: Jan 22nd 2012 at 6:38:16 AM

[up] I thought that was because Moriarty WANTED to get caught?

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TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#263: Jan 22nd 2012 at 6:46:36 AM

The only time he explicitly wanted to get caught was after breaking into the Tower of London, the Bank of England and Pentonville. There's nothing to say he wanted to be lifted the first time around.

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#264: Jan 22nd 2012 at 7:05:03 AM

Hmmmm, makes me wonder what Moriarty felt about Mycroft.

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#265: Jan 22nd 2012 at 8:57:15 AM

Evidently he felt that Sherlock was better, anyway.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#266: Jan 22nd 2012 at 10:41:48 AM

How often do you see Mycroft going out and doing anything more than making a personal appearance? It's investigating he can't stand. Usually he sits in his office and sends orders.

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HopelessSituationWarrior Naïve Newcomer from Canada. The middle part. Since: Sep, 2010
#267: Jan 22nd 2012 at 6:08:34 PM

Mycroft's inductive powers are supposed to be greater than Sherlock's, but he lacks Sherlock's imagination and creativity. They're smart in different ways.

edited 22nd Jan '12 6:08:59 PM by HopelessSituationWarrior

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#268: Jan 22nd 2012 at 6:51:57 PM

[up] inductive powers?

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#269: Jan 22nd 2012 at 8:52:25 PM

Meaning putting the pieces of the puzzle together so things make sense.

He's physically lazy, not mentally. He doesn't like moving from his armchair, but is fine with thinking a lot.

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#270: Jan 22nd 2012 at 8:55:52 PM

That's deduction.

Induction is starting with your conclusion and then putting the pieces together to fit. Which is where Mycroft definitely outshines Sherlock in both capacity and resources.

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#271: Jan 23rd 2012 at 1:26:23 AM

Given Mycroft's intelligence, I'm literally counting down the episodes until he goes evil. I think it's a forgone conclusion at this point.

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#272: Jan 23rd 2012 at 2:44:44 AM

[up] I don't think he'll go completely balls out evil, it's been established that he cares too much about Sherlock.

HOWEVER, I think there could be an episode or two were he slips into Knight Templar Big Brother mode and decides to go to extreme (and awesome) lengths to keep Sherlock away from a case/event that he doesn't want him to be a part of.

Holmes vs Holmes is certainly an interesting prospect, and I'd be dissapointed if Moffat didn't take advantage of it (especially now that Sherlock's only mental rivals are either dead as shit or in love with him)

edited 23rd Jan '12 2:47:19 AM by gingerninja666

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel
JOZeldenrust Since: Jul, 2010
#273: Jan 23rd 2012 at 1:20:05 PM

[up][up][up]Nope, induction is starting with knowledge of particulars to formulate general rules (science), whereas deduction is starting with general principles to arrive at knowledge of particulars (classic forensics).

Actually forensics has become far more inductive over the last couple of decades, which is a good thing: with deductive reasoning it's very easy to trick yourself into a false sense of certainty: if your reasoning is valid, your conclusions should be true. That doesn't mean they apply to the situation you're studying, though. Rely on evidence, distrust proof.

edited 23rd Jan '12 1:20:33 PM by JOZeldenrust

HopelessSituationWarrior Naïve Newcomer from Canada. The middle part. Since: Sep, 2010
#274: Jan 23rd 2012 at 2:13:12 PM

[up]Yeah. Most people call what Sherlock does "deducing", because that's what it's referred to in the novels. It is actually inducing, going from specific details to a general conclusion. "Watson has very good posture and a cropped short hairstyle, therefore he must have been in the military."

edited 23rd Jan '12 2:13:43 PM by HopelessSituationWarrior

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#275: Jan 23rd 2012 at 6:01:10 PM

So... without using words like inducting or deducting, WHAT is Mycroft good at, exactly?

"Contests fought between two masters are decided instantly. An invisible battle is now raging between the two of them." Lulu vs Schneizel

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