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CountofBleck The Cyber champion rises from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Cyber champion rises
Jul 17th 2018 at 4:14:59 AM

Wow you guys werent kidding with the whole Tsubaki being shafted thing.

  • Tsubaki: I'll take care of Izanami
  • Ragna: Dibs.
  • Tsubaki: Ok...then let me take Azrae-
  • Kagura: Dibs.
  • Tsubaki: u.u

Also Ragna grew one mighty fine beard. its really cool to see how mature he's gotten.

Edited by CountofBleck on Jul 17th 2018 at 8:11:48 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Jul 17th 2018 at 5:00:05 AM

Tsubaki had finished her arc from the last game, so there wasn't much for her to do sadly lol. And then the game just dropped her whole plotline of fighting Jin/Hakumen soo....

Ian?

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jul 17th 2018 at 8:02:19 AM

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
CountofBleck The Cyber champion rises from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Cyber champion rises
Jul 17th 2018 at 5:12:44 AM

wow auto correct is an evil mistress. Meant so say Izanami. fixed.

CountofBleck The Cyber champion rises from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Cyber champion rises
Jul 17th 2018 at 6:32:26 AM

Annnnnnd we're done with the main scenario!

Dang what a way to go. So in order to destroy the loops completely, Ragna himself had to be completely forgotten by everyone, because the Calamity Trigger would always happen, aka the first game. Since Ameterasu forgot his existence, the loops cant occour anymore. Is that what I understand?

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
Jul 17th 2018 at 6:42:36 AM

Essentially.

Copyright? Plz, I'm a troper.
CountofBleck The Cyber champion rises from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Cyber champion rises
Jul 17th 2018 at 6:49:02 AM

God damned Ragna and his robot harem...even the God loved him so much it screwed the world over...

So now that thats all cleared up...what happens now? We got a stinger for the next game in that final text, there's still murakumos to "save", Ragna's gone of somewhere, Carl turned rogue, and we still have no sign of apocalypse-01 yet.

HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Jul 17th 2018 at 7:08:22 AM

There's one thing I'm unclear on:

So who is Noel now? Ragna's sister, or ...well Noel? They kinda merged in the end right?

Once again, wokka wokka!
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
Jul 17th 2018 at 7:19:27 AM

The Noel we know is now Saya reborn.

I think Noel is basically gone now.

Copyright? Plz, I'm a troper.
HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Jul 17th 2018 at 7:30:17 AM

Wow.

So...what do you think she calls herself now? Does she even have Noel's memories, or are those gone too?

Edit: Also, did we ever get some ages for the characters? I was never clear how old any of them were supposed to be.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 17th 2018 at 8:30:57 AM

Once again, wokka wokka!
CountofBleck The Cyber champion rises from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Cyber champion rises
Jul 17th 2018 at 7:37:28 AM

Also I feel like I should have done these sub scenarios while I was going through the main plot, but the story never stopped once. Feels like I missed several gaps.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Jul 17th 2018 at 7:44:12 AM

Noel and Saya become one in the same, since Noel was always just a fragment of Saya to begin with. So she has both of her memories as Noel and Saya, but prefers the former obviously. It's why she starts referring to Ragna and Jin with honorifics.

The sub scenarios are only there to add to the main story and do explain certain plot points, but aren't required.

So count, what'd you think of Terumi's true nature being revealed? That was like, the biggest thing people took from the climax lol.

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asterism Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Jul 17th 2018 at 8:02:04 AM

Noel was always basically Diet Saya, CF just made it explicit.

Parade's Lust
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Jul 17th 2018 at 8:14:11 AM

"Dibs"?

And they don't resolve whether Tsubaki knows Hakumen is Jin or not in the story mode...

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CountofBleck The Cyber champion rises from A world of lies and deception Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Cyber champion rises
Jul 17th 2018 at 8:19:43 AM

Well I had that spoiled for me literally years ago during the intial hype. I didnt go into this 100% blind, unfortunately, so I knew it was coming. However, I do like how he was able to be killed. In the current world there was barely anyone left, and Terumi's Resurrection loop couldn't work anymore because there's no one to fear him. THAT was some delicious irony.

EDIT: OK going through these sub stories, Luna and Sena were ALSO part of unknown lab experiments? what the heck were these people doing experimenting on all these children?

Edited by CountofBleck on Jul 17th 2018 at 1:42:11 PM

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Jul 17th 2018 at 5:12:54 PM

[up] Variable Heart will show you what Luna and Sena used to be.

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HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Jul 17th 2018 at 6:27:48 PM

Really? We actually get to see what they used to look like huh?

I still kinda hate Platinum (mostly because I don't get why a male persona was needed, as it sounds like an excuse to fulfill a weird fetish) but I am curious to know what their original identities were.

Once again, wokka wokka!
asterism Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Jul 18th 2018 at 2:00:23 AM

IIRC they were two dying children that Jubei came across so he shoved their souls into an artificial body to save them.

That's also why they're so attached to him, because he saved their lives.

Parade's Lust
Jul 19th 2018 at 12:35:31 AM

Why does everyone make a big deal about Ragna "beating everyone" in CF? Who is the majority Ragna beat? Jin, Noel, Litchi, Bang, Nu, Tsubaki, Makoto, Bullet?

Dude wasn't Ragna like...already stronger than them all since BBCT? Except Nu but in CP Ragna became Strong and Skilled and proved it by beating Nu.

Also Ragna never technically beat any of the villains in CF, except Hazama and Terumi (not Susano'o).

Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Grant us eyes
Jul 19th 2018 at 1:38:15 AM

Probably because he had so many hollow victories and cheap losses in past games which overshadowed his actual successes, that to see him just stomp through almost the whole cast with the only caveat being something he himself knew would happened and accepted was very striking. Plus he delivered the killing blow to Nine, helped Noel with the final stage of absorbing Izanami. At the end of the day, he didn't have any victories with a negative catch to them, besides the one he decided for himself, a difference from the other games.

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
Jul 19th 2018 at 9:06:20 AM

I mainly talked about Ragna's power level tho (in the eyes of audience). The one who has canonically beat him before CF is only Hakumen, Nu, Hazama, Kagura, Azrael. And even then there's Worf Had the Flu factor for all of them except Hakumen/Nu (although he mught be tired and injured vs Nu from Hakumen previously).

And I meant Ragna finished Nine because of her being distracted, also he didn't overpower Izanami.

Edited by asdfr on Jul 19th 2018 at 9:11:34 AM

4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Jul 19th 2018 at 9:08:51 PM

"Ragna beats everyone" is a misnomer, more like "he's stronger than others come CF". Embryo sucking people's souls other than Ragna and Nine. (dunno about Izanami or Terumi though)

He does beat some other characters (mostly unimportant ones) so that he can take their desires.

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Jul 20th 2018 at 5:10:34 AM

"he's stronger than others come CF" word can imply that Ragna was weak before tbh. Ragna gained Memetic Loser status but he's never weak as they thought. And certainly stronger than the likes of Jin, Noel, Litchi, Bang, Nu, Tsubaki, Makoto, Bullet; the majority of people he beat, since back in CT (except Nu but not in CP).

I think Ragna 'beating most of the cast' like those people I mentioned doesn't really qualify as his feat becoming One-Man Army or Took a Level in Badass in CF.

Edited by asdfr on Jul 20th 2018 at 5:11:42 AM

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from Are explosions science?
And? And? And? And? AND?
Jul 20th 2018 at 6:12:59 AM

Well to be fair anyone would be stronger than Bullet

I'm quite confident in my shitposting you know
4tell0life4 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Jul 20th 2018 at 4:54:34 PM

One Man A Rmy fits Ragna prior to the first game's story (where he massacres NOL troops).

Took a Level in Badass doesn't have to be expressed in "beating people he couldn't before". At its core, he gets stronger, and that's all that matters.

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Relationship Status: Singularity
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Jul 20th 2018 at 10:54:27 PM

[up][up]I dunno. I would fit that Jobber part to someone else.


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