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Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#301: Jun 21st 2012 at 8:08:27 PM

Well, day 30 is when the game starts putting in more dangerous enemies, so you want to finish up quickly unless you want a difficult time.

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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#302: Jun 21st 2012 at 8:10:32 PM

Oh yeah, when Beady Long Legs starts falling from the SKY near the beginning of Perplexing Pool… Not too big a threat, but seriously, what the heck?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#303: Jun 21st 2012 at 8:31:31 PM

I think the Bulbear is worse, really.

But I think those two are the only differences that occur...

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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#304: Jun 21st 2012 at 8:48:10 PM

Oh yeah, the Bulbear is waaaay worse. And that Challenge level with the three of them? I'm not sure how I got the purple flower on it. I think it involved a ton of ultra bitter spray.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#305: Jun 21st 2012 at 9:10:14 PM

It's pretty much luck, that one.

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FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
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#306: Jun 22nd 2012 at 1:12:04 AM

Day 30 is also when a couple useful things show up, like the Wistful Wild bugs. Could be worse. Could be raining.

...Which actually might suck really bad, if you're Pikmin-sized.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
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#307: Jun 22nd 2012 at 6:49:08 AM

Weather effects in my Pikmin?

...I like that idea. Have an area be un-accessible for a day and the next one the water has risen, opening up different areas that can only be initially reached by the blue Pikmin. Add in a purchasable weather control/change effect or machine, and you can have droughts and snow effects as well.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#308: Jun 22nd 2012 at 6:52:22 AM

Would Blue Pikmin survive in the rain? I know they can breath underwater but I kind of assume the sheer force the water is hitting them with would injure them in some way.

FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#309: Jun 22nd 2012 at 6:54:30 AM

If I remember correctly, they don't flinch under the spray from a watery blowhog.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#310: Jun 22nd 2012 at 6:57:15 AM

[up]That's not as powerful as a raindrop as big as them falling from several miles in the air.

I hope they change that in this game though. I don't expect them to be hurt but just because they're water resistant doesn't mean they shouldn't be knocked back temporarily. More realistic reactions like that are things I'd like to see in this game.

edited 22nd Jun '12 6:57:43 AM by Kostya

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#311: Jun 22nd 2012 at 8:32:35 AM

Random weather sounds cool enough, but I imagine that random factor would make speed runs nearly impossible to coordinate if you get an unwanted day of rain right in the middle of it or something...

Some way to control the weather, even in subsequent playthroughs, would work nicely. Or maybe make it feasibly possible to obtain a way to do that before weather effects become prominent if you're fast enough.

Otherwise it sounds like a cool idea. Especially if it makes some areas blocked and others accessible. More variety in an area per day.

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Squeakythemaster Since: Dec, 2011
#312: Jun 22nd 2012 at 8:44:11 AM

Weather sounds interesting, like having a lake frozen over or somthing so the dungeon (which can only be accessed by reds)can travel into. The lake will unfreeze on certain days.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#313: Jun 22nd 2012 at 9:00:11 AM

And once it's unfrozen, Blues can explore the lakebed of it and find stuff, or maybe there's a passage below the ice that leads to a separate area, preferably with a Door to Before so that all Pikmin can access it on any day after Blues find it on thawed days.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
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#314: Jun 22nd 2012 at 10:49:20 AM

You would have to have a way to control the weather because having it be sunny one time, rain the next, and snow after that would not make sense in a game completed in "days" and not seasons.

Hmm... another way to do the same sort of thing is to have power-ups for blue and red Pikmin... GOT IT! Elemental bomb-rocks! Blues can pick up ice ones that freeze water and reds can pick up fire ones that melt ice. Can't exactly set reds on fire and have blues be very cold unless you want mechanics that require losing some Pikmin (from drowning in water or being frozen in ice)

edited 22nd Jun '12 10:51:14 AM by Belian

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#315: Jun 22nd 2012 at 10:56:49 AM

A thought I had. What if they introduced water hazards that blues can't survive? I'm thinking something along the lines of a stream that moves so swiftly they just get pulled away or some sort of polluted water.

So does anyone else think the rock Pikmin should be able to survive underwater?

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#316: Jun 22nd 2012 at 11:07:15 AM

The idea of being able to intentionally freeze water to make ice bridges sounds interesting, but I think that would best be reserved for the domain of theoretical Cyan Pikmin.

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Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
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#317: Jun 22nd 2012 at 1:42:06 PM

As in, the ants become living bricks for a while. It's a group intelligence, with the environment and the Queens commanding things.

It is not a "group intelligence". Rather, individual ants respond to phermones and the environment in ways that help the group while releasing phermones/brushing against each other for further communication. These responses are instinctual, and there are a lot of possible ones. Also, the queen does not "command them"; her primary role is egg-laying.

Sorry, I just like the hormigas too much to let this fly.

edited 22nd Jun '12 1:42:34 PM by Scardoll

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
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#318: Jun 22nd 2012 at 6:57:53 PM

My mistake

FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
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#319: Jun 22nd 2012 at 7:16:48 PM

Maybe the game just has areas themed after seasons like in 2, and the relevant weather effects only appear in those areas? Winter would have snow and blizzards, Spring would have rain, Summer would have both Droughts and Storms (which could even incorporate electrical hazards!), and Fall could maybe have rain and strong winds.

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RandomChaos No Dragon Power from My own little world Since: Oct, 2011
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#320: Jun 24th 2012 at 4:53:35 AM

So you think Stone is ore only new Pikin type? and will we had White and Purple?

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#321: Jun 24th 2012 at 8:15:04 AM

[up]I'm pretty sure there were flying Pikmin in the cinematic scenes. I also heard we will get purple and white they just weren't included in the demo or trailer.

RandomChaos No Dragon Power from My own little world Since: Oct, 2011
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#322: Jun 24th 2012 at 8:25:35 AM

Flying ones I hope so

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CyberTiger88 Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#323: Jun 25th 2012 at 7:15:54 AM

I wonder how the flying Pikmin are going to be like gameplay-wise. Can they fly to normally non-accessible areas similar to the yellow Pikmin? Can they take down flying enemies? Can they pick up your character so they can get a lift? I'm happy as long they don't have them be under or overpowered.

Squeakythemaster Since: Dec, 2011
#324: Jun 25th 2012 at 8:11:57 AM

[up]I'd like to have pinks be able to preform mid air swarming. That would make dealing with those (bad word)snagrets. The first time I battled against the p snagret I said (bad word) and just let thirty piks die so I could kill it. And the time when you have to fight on quicksand? Nightmare.

edited 25th Jun '12 8:12:40 AM by Squeakythemaster

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
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#325: Jun 25th 2012 at 8:24:23 AM

I've never really had an issue with either of the Snagrets. Just so long as you only go on the attack when they try to come up beak first. If you get your 'mins on and off fast enough you'll be fine.

Quicksand does make it a bit of a pain though.

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