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@Hail Muffins I'd say it's averaged out to be about the same, honestly, especially as younger people join AO3 and post the same 'quality' fics FF.net is supposedly known for--cross-posting to both sites is also popular for maximum exposure, and you can get scenarios where a badly-written fic on fanfiction.net has 2 reviews and 0 favorites and the same fic on AO3 has 9 Kudos and 3 comments. The most explicit fic I ever skimmed was posted on FF.net about a month ago, and there's no shortage of content like that on both sites despite FF.net's policy change. However, explicit sexual and violent content is a feature of AO3 and it isn't disabled by default, which is part of why I don't go there as much. But you can also find really well-written fics on both sites ^^

Fanfiction.net seems to have more video game, anime, and cartoon-oriented fics, while AO3 has more live-action TV, real-person, and Marvel fics, and the volumes can depend on when it was released--more modern stuff has more of an AO3 hold, while earlier stuff is more on fanfiction.net, though there are always exceptions where stuff is popular or not-popular on both. Depending on your preferences you can find a lot of stuff for obscure fandoms on one site but not the other, so it's neat to sort by letter or volume of fics and see what you can find.

While AO3 is active, Fanfiction.net is far from inactive, and what I found helps is to search for Complete fics and turn off the Romance genre tag, and if you add an m before the URL, for the mobile site, you can select text in the fic. One downside of AO3 I found can be the sheer volume of tags at times—if there's a mega-crossover with tons of characters, or tons of relationships and/or warnings, they'll take up the whole screen, and sometimes it's kinda like Tumblr where an author's opinions are listed in the tags. It's also neat to go deep into the archives for both sites, though since fanfiction.net was created first it has some seniority there—you can read Harry Potter fics from before the fourth book came out! It can be really fun to see people's stories about a work before it's set in stone.

(Also for some reason every time I go to AO3's Yu-Gi-Oh section there's about 10 explicit Kaiba/Reader fics on the front page.)

Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 8th 2018 at 6:15:32 AM

The Protomen enhanced my life.

500 gbs?? That's the storage size of a 3-year-old laptop! Who has the space!?

Ow, I'm impressed.

And thanks! Guess I'll just keep sticking to Fan Fic.net, then, seems more my jam. Looks much better, too, but I suppose that's a rather subjective point.

Man, I tried exporting my main Tumblr blog, and it took all night even at the highest internet speed before cancelling, and it would give out an error if it loses connection. I could barely download it whole assuming that my blog would take more than a Gigabyte or two. I barely touched my blog before 2015-16. I could assume my exported images are in RAW format, hence the size.

I tried TumblThree, though it only reaches out to 1280, but it's relatively quicker than exporting directly from Tumblr.

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Apparently the NSFW Ban is the herald of a bigger threat: a package of bills called SESTA and FOSTA. On paper, they are meant to combat sex trafficking, but many see them as tools for Internet censorship in disguise. Here are a few links:

• https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/stop-enabling-sex-traffickers-act-sesta
• https://ummmwine.tumblr.com/post/180904929186/this-was-a-good-thread-i-saw-about-how-of-course
• http://brellom.tumblr.com/post/180977417396/not-to-panic-more-but-twitter-is-probably-about-to
• http://raccoonfootproductions.tumblr.com/post/181037972292/the-internet-war-on-sex-is-here

An open mind and compassionate heart are among the most important qualities we can have.

Ya know, I get how this is an ineffective method to stop sex trafficking, as the links go into (traffickers will just find other avenues, victims will have a harder time finding support online, the less out in the open it is the harder it is to track, etc.), but I'm still not entirely sure I understand how this is "censoring" pornography.

Maybe it's just because tumblr and twitter have spoiled us, but pornography (at least involving real people; not sure about drawings) has many sets of bylaws which it has to adhere to: dues and fee's to pay, standards and practices to meet and hold, a level of transparency it has to maintain, etc. All of these things are why many online providers don't won't to be associated with porn at all, because A) just the fact that now they are associated with porn (and thus not family friendly) and have to deal with all of the problems of monitoring and regulating it, and B) once you host porn, you have to meet all of the same standards and practices as the ones actually making the porn, which costs a lot of money and can easily get you sued (it's why a lot of amateur porn is done off-grid; not for any sense of authenticity or "rebellion" from the toxic Adult Entertainment industry, but because they know that they're going to get potentially arrested for not paying taxes on it or following safety precautions). Tumblr, by allowing it's users to host, distribute, and even sell pornography (whether by consenting adults or not) was in effect borderline-illegal right from the get-go without listing themselves as a porn site on their tax forms.

The fact that tumblr is only now getting blasted for basically being a free-to-use and free-to-distribute porn site for almost a decade is mind boggling: not for the fact that it's ending, but for the fact that it didn't happen way sooner.

Edited by Eldritcho on Dec 13th 2018 at 5:59:38 AM

Just because the hammer could have come down earlier doesn't mean the hammer should come down. The lesson from people using Tumblr for porn should be "hey, there are plenty of people who want a site where they can make money off porn, and they'll do it without horribly exploiting anyone!" Not "oh ick, let's put those nasty people out of work and then blame them for not having jobs."

Not to mention that these rules are so broad that some sites are outlawing talking about sex. At all. I'm sure there's someone else on this thread who can go into the sex worker thing better than I can, but this at least is obviously bad. We've already seen how Tumblr is tagging all sorts of random crap and failing to successfully censor the porn bots. Do you think anyone else will do any better?

... I'm honestly surprised that this question is being asked.

Go to your Tumblr Dashboard, then go the "row" of icons at the top right and click the Account button (it's the second from the right, next to "Make a Post"). It will open a menu list, where you'll find a "Following" option that lists the number of blogs you're following. Click that, and you'll be taken to your watchlist.

Or you could just use a direct link.

Oh, and regarding the crawling being stopped by any addition to the queue... Just refrain from starting the crawling until after you added all the blogs to the main list (the one that dominates the program's window); from there, any manual addition from said list to the actual queue will not interrupt any ongoing crawling.

Edited by MarqFJA on Dec 14th 2018 at 12:03:43 PM

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

OK, noticed a weird thing while letting TumblThree back up my Tumblr watchlist: It gives a "blog is offline" error on some of them, even though when I actually open the links in the browser, they work just fine. What's going on?

Edited by MarqFJA on Dec 14th 2018 at 3:37:34 PM

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

To be fair, the site's UI is pretty garbage. I consistently have trouble finding my follower list when I want to block porn bots.

Edited by Karxrida on Dec 14th 2018 at 6:34:40 AM

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?

The site also always made it really hard to find older art as the site just cuts off the amount of art it'd show you at a certain point.

I personally always found that absolutely infuriating as deviantart has had that as a feature for ages. Even before tumblr probably even existed.

Edited by Wispy on Dec 15th 2018 at 5:31:32 AM

That's indeed mind-bogglingly enraging.

BTW, I figured out the cause of the error that I had mentioned: several of those Tumblr blogs are blocked by my country's nationwide central proxy. The only common factor is that they're pretty much all-porn... though several other blogs that didn't exhibit this problem were of similar nature, so my only guess is that the censors didn't notice the latter subset.

The solution is easy: Just keep Psiphon open and running, since it channels almost all Internet traffic to and from the computer through it (torrents don't work, though, by actual design on Psiphon's devs; they're anti-censorship, not pro-digital piracy, which is apparently what torrents are mostly used for these days).

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

So apparently SFW content is getting shadowbanned too.

Yep. I seen it. That's what you get when you let bots in charge.

Apparently they're going after any anime deemed "controversial".

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.

More proof this algorithm is a joke.

They also are nuking My Little Pony fanart and Furry fan art. Doesn't matter if its pornographic or not, and usually it isn't.

At this point I am thinking of just giving up on the site. They very clearly did not think this whole thing through.

I gave up the moment that NSFW work was announced to be banned, and went back to newgrounds.

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There's supposed to be a boycott of Tumblr tomorrow to protest the rules change. I have no idea how organized that is.

A boycott with the aim of actually changing a business' behavior is pointless when not part of a larger strategy of protest and action. They don't work. I say this as someone who will no longer be active on Tumblr because I cannot in good conscience keep that hellsite as part of my routine.

Pretty much this. Unless its organized on a larger scale it sadly won't work.

I have seen so many people say they'll boycott and either never do it or don't have enough people for it to be noticeable.

Although I am sure tumblr's traffic has dropped a bit.

I mean, I don't go on Tumblr much anyway (though I was starting to go on more before this whole debacle), so specifically boycotting it for a day isn't a big deal to me. I dunno about anyone else.

I should have favorited the post, but the point was to boycott on that specific day and then come back after, but spread the word about why on Twitter and Facebook and so on. Again, I don't know how organized it is, but it's more thought-out than "I guess we should stop using this site."

I'd always made a plan to get back into my Tumblr after I graduated college.

Then this happens 2 days after.

I'm doing the log off thing on the 17th.

One of my friends told me he made a funny comic about two cockroaches talking, and it was taken down.

I cannot even fathom why.

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.

Logging off in approximately two hours.

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