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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#401: Oct 29th 2011 at 10:33:19 AM

The villain piece is good, but the coloring is all of a similar shade, there is no focal point, nothing that really grabs me, so it kind comes off as a slight pile of mush. But I know very little about coloring, so I could be wrong. It's crisp, but not entirely appealing to look at. Unless that's the style you're going for.

The concept art is also good, although you can see a slight tilt to a lot of the buildings. Especially the one with the spikes.

The crack in the building with the tiny windows, some of them seem painted on, without any real effect around them, I mean, there is a crack that goes through glass, but the rest of the glass is solid!

Good use of negative space, though.


New pikshur.

Yeah, I know, I'm still putting off learning about color theory >_>

oh, and relevant ;_;

edited 29th Oct '11 12:38:48 PM by MrAHR

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#402: Oct 29th 2011 at 2:10:46 PM

[up] In response to that relevant thing, and even though it's been said hundreds of times already, use Posemaniacs! I promise it'll help. It isn't really fun if you completely stop drawing stuff from your imagination, though, so I usually end up swapping between the two so I can get practice in. Or you could set up a system where you draw one referenced pose for every one or two sketches you do on your own, something like that.

I also like it since the site lets you rotate the pose...it's helpful for seeing how foreshortening works as the body turns toward/away from your view.

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#403: Oct 29th 2011 at 7:01:18 PM

I don't use photo references too much even though I REALLY should *puts it on list*. >.> Anyway, I don't know if you've seen it already but this starry Lackasaisy tut has helped me a bunch with foreshortening. Thinking of body parts as 3d shapes and all that jazz. If you do the construction thing and use the posemaniacs references you'll be a pro in no time.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#404: Oct 30th 2011 at 7:58:41 AM

All right, thank you. I don't mean to sound selfish, but is there anything specific about the picture?

I mean, general advice is nice, but I'd like to also know some of the more immediate problems as well.

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#405: Oct 30th 2011 at 2:55:37 PM

  • Overall it looks really stiff and sharp and blocky. Don't be afraid to be bolder and looser. I'm not saying you have to change your style, just give your lines some life!
  • I'm not sure why the dude's boots are a shade of purple.
  • You told me a while ago to make my noses more varied. Your characters' noses are both small and pointy and their chins are the same shape as well.
  • The dude's pants are alright but the girl's are pretty much just a giant chunk of color. They're really big and loose so they should have more folds.
  • He's gonna fall over.
  • The foreshortening looks really superficial...like, you just made their hands really big and didn't change anything else. That's why I suggested the construction tut. This is really hard to explain in words, but um, for example, the dude's sleeve? It's a straight line across the bottom. If his arm was outstretched then the sleeve would be...curved upwards...agh this isn't making sense is it? Uh, maybe this helps more? No? I'm really bad at explaining things.
Edit: If you look up 'stop hand sign' on GIS then you'll see your pose.

edited 30th Oct '11 2:58:56 PM by piearty

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#406: Oct 30th 2011 at 3:14:09 PM

Yeah, I have a chart for this, but I forgot what Tyler and Nia's nose looked like. I think I might actually edit that.

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#407: Nov 6th 2011 at 12:11:49 AM

Anyone wanna critique this blurry mess?! I was trying to practice skin tone. If anyone says anything— her pupils are squarish on purpose.

edited 6th Nov '11 12:12:14 AM by piearty

NomadicLurker Shall not be known from a place Since: May, 2011
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#408: Nov 17th 2011 at 5:57:47 PM

[up] The shading looks okay, but I can't really tell well with the blurriness. The freckles look fine, I think, but the nose looks a bit cat-like (unless that's what you were going for, then ignore that comment).

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edited 16th Feb '12 6:08:59 PM by NomadicLurker

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#409: Nov 18th 2011 at 10:59:34 PM

[up][up] The eyes don't look as if they're looking in the same direction. By the way, are the rectangular pupils a reference to sheep or something like that?

The mouth also looks a little off-centred, although it's difficult to be sure with the blurriness. The skin looks fine, though.

[up] I'm really not sure what to say about any of those. I don't have an arts education, myself tongue

So, this is my latest picture, drawn in a few hours today. I'd like comments on the anatomy, proportions, stuff like that.

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#410: Nov 19th 2011 at 5:59:17 PM

Yeah, the square pupil thing is because she's a faun. Didn't draw her horns though. Idk, pretend they shedded for the season or something. Oh wait...that's deer. Oh well. And yeah, coulda defined her nose better so it didn't look so flat...coulda defined everything better really. I's got issues with that.

[up][up] First thought. [up] I like how you colored her skirt. I don't think it'd have ruffles so evenly spaced in the back though. The cloth would kind of ruffle and uh, bunch in the middle. I think. It's also kind of weird how her right hand (on the wall) is completely in profile. Yes yes, it does make it easy to draw, but it doesn't look very natural. I do find it amusing that her feet are turned out for some reason.

edited 19th Nov '11 6:01:48 PM by piearty

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#411: Nov 19th 2011 at 8:45:02 PM

Thanks smile The scanner actually didn't replicate the colours of the original perfectly, though - the pink is actually a bit brighter. It's enough to make me want to go totally digital. tongue

Well, the wall is in profile too... which I guess is just me shrinking away from perspective. Her feet are turned out because... I'm not very good at drawing feet that don't look like shapeless blobs.

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NomadicLurker Shall not be known from a place Since: May, 2011
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#412: Nov 20th 2011 at 11:43:05 AM

[up][up] Is the True Art Is Incomprehensible thing good or bad?

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#413: Nov 20th 2011 at 2:20:54 PM

It's...interesting. The pictures don't really stand by themselves without the captions/explanations though. Some of them convey about 40% of the meaning but some...like that elephant+prostitute picture are confusing alone and spoiled by the explanation pretty much spelling very single thing out. Maybe the explanations are part and parcel of each of your pieces; personally I don't like that very much. But idk.

NomadicLurker Shall not be known from a place Since: May, 2011
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#414: Nov 20th 2011 at 6:22:05 PM

[up] The captions weren't supposed to really convey anything. I just threw them in there as a sort of bonus. I just meant for the pictures to look pretty.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#416: Nov 20th 2011 at 6:40:19 PM

AHR can I ask what method you use to draw?

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#417: Nov 20th 2011 at 6:40:57 PM

Pen?

Or do you mean program?

Or technique?

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#418: Nov 20th 2011 at 7:06:26 PM

Yeah, I meant like the stuff you used to draw. And what program too, I guess. I was asking since the comouter version looks really, really stiff. The pen one is rougher but I like it better since the lines seem more...life filled.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#420: Nov 20th 2011 at 7:22:22 PM

I think you often make character's shoulders too wide compared to their hips/legs.

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SnowyFoxes Drummer Boy from Club Room Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I know
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#421: Nov 20th 2011 at 7:23:54 PM

Hoxle is a guy, right? I see boobs.

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#422: Nov 20th 2011 at 7:32:39 PM

Yeah, helpful rule: unless you're severely emaciated, your torso is not thinner than the width of your head. And even then your ribs and hips are wider.

'Nother rule: unless it's for a very subtle effect, don't use gradients. They look awful.

Also notice in the pen drawing that you use what I call the dot-and-stick method of making the skeleton. Personally I like the way I learned from Lackadaisy Cats where you think of joints as actual 3D shapes. (if you haven't noticed, I love Lackadaisy). It really does give everything shape and form. Helps you draw clothes too. It looks like you drew the pants straight on without sketching the legs under the pants. They are giant shapeless stiff blocks.

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#423: Nov 20th 2011 at 7:51:27 PM

[up][up]Hoxle is a girl. Hence, boobs.

[up]Yeah, I was trying to make a reflection effect.

Also, sometimes I sketch the legs, sometimes I don't forget if I did or not X_x

Work on hips. Got it.

edited 20th Nov '11 7:53:56 PM by MrAHR

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SnowyFoxes Drummer Boy from Club Room Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I know
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#424: Nov 20th 2011 at 7:53:10 PM

The rest of her looks really masculine to me, though. Was that the intention?

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#425: Nov 20th 2011 at 7:55:02 PM

My faces are naturally masculine.

It's cause I emphasize their jaws too much.

And muscles on females are not common in fiction, and I made them slightly too exaggerated, realistically.

edited 20th Nov '11 7:55:41 PM by MrAHR

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