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Tumbril Since: Feb, 2010
#376: Oct 8th 2011 at 11:42:07 AM

For the designer, you pick a scheme out of the six in the upper left and then you click on different places on the rainbow colored wheel. On the right side if you hover over the boxes of color it'll show you the hexadecimal number for that color, which you can type into the color selector of whatever program you're using.

The last 4 schemes also have white dots on the wheel that you can drag around to change the other colors in the scheme.

It's really not that hard to learn color schemes, it's mostly just a matter of reading a little about it and then practicing and experimenting using them a lot. If you've got time, you can read through some color tutorials like these: [1] [2] [3] [4]. There are a lot more out there—those are just the first few I pulled up.

edited 8th Oct '11 11:42:34 AM by Tumbril

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
StolenByFaeries Believe from a reprogrammed reality Since: Dec, 2010
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#378: Oct 9th 2011 at 7:07:12 PM

Ah... from what I can see the last piece was critiqued, so...

Critique please? I am aware that the thigh is too long (didn't notice that until I finished colouring >_<). I'd like some advice on maybe how to get the Demon!Wings to look more leathery and the limbs - like that damn foot. It's supposed to be sticking out like a ballerina's starting stance (best comparison I can think of. >_<).

edited 9th Oct '11 8:53:31 PM by StolenByFaeries

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#379: Oct 17th 2011 at 7:53:34 PM

It really isn't bad. I'd suggest looking at pictures of insect wings to get the veins on them more realistic though. They aren't really square like that, more curved and organic. The demon wing is really confusing me...if I assume you want it to look like a bat wing, well, bat wings aren't...circular like that. You've got skin stretched across the wing-thumb joint, which doesn't happen The wings also look like ripped paper. Really the best thing you can do is look at a reference.
Oh and what the heck do you mean by ballet starting stance? I'm a ballet dancer myself...are you referring to first position? If so, then the leg doesn't jut out like that. And...really...reference reference reference. It seems all of those questions can be answered with a quick GIS search...

edited 17th Oct '11 7:55:52 PM by piearty

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#380: Oct 17th 2011 at 8:46:09 PM

The bat wing doesn't look too bad... I think the fingers could be longer, though, and the whole wing larger. And the edges of the wing seem sort of ragged, which I don't think looks right.

I'm not sure if you're talking about first position. Do you mean... with one foot flat on the ground, and the other foot pointing to the front with only the ball touching the ground?

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#381: Oct 17th 2011 at 8:55:11 PM

Stolen by Faeries: That's not a ballet position. You're talking about any one of these common modeling poses, or the S-curve position, which is most often used in classical paintings.

edited 17th Oct '11 8:56:23 PM by Leradny

Tumbril Since: Feb, 2010
#382: Oct 17th 2011 at 9:08:55 PM

If you want the bat wing to look more leathery, I'd try coloring the thin parts more smoothly —you can do this by coloring really lightly and just adding more and more layers until it's how you want it to look, or you could color really heavily (but you won't be able to mix colors that way) once you figure out what color it's supposed to be. As it is now, I can see the line markings from the color pencil so it looks like you intentionally tried to make it look textured.

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StolenByFaeries Believe from a reprogrammed reality Since: Dec, 2010
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#383: Oct 17th 2011 at 9:27:43 PM

Thanks for the advice on the wings, guys - I'll try that. smile

And I wasn't sure how to describe the foot thing (as stated >_<), but I'll use that link Leradny posted for further posing dramas.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#385: Oct 18th 2011 at 4:44:00 PM

On the positive, you've definitely improved since the last time you did perspective like this.

On the negative side, his upper body doesn't look like it's moving with his legs.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#386: Oct 18th 2011 at 4:45:53 PM

Yeah. It's that damn arm. It gets me every time. Guess this means I need to start finding reference poses.

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#387: Oct 18th 2011 at 4:50:25 PM

It's not precisely, or maybe only, that - if he's running as fast as the length of his stride suggests, there's no way his spine should be so ramrod-straight.

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Zanter Zanter from Your potted plant Since: Feb, 2010
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#388: Oct 18th 2011 at 9:53:10 PM

Gonna post quite a few things, feel free to only point out anything that stands out.

Or totally ignore me due to the large supply of art.

Character practice for my comic. Science-fantasy. Apocalyptic in setting. Action/drama/comedy building up to cosmic horror. Some of the main characters. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/art/Guys-260579375?q=gallery%3Ainsanelyzanter%2F12975544&qo=4

The primary villain for the first large story arc. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/art/Ian-Skelris-261787176?q=gallery%3Ainsanelyzanter%2F12975544&qo=3

Kind of fallout-esque mutant. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49lww7

A huge experiment for my (much more likely to be made soon) psychological horror comic.

http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/art/Jack-Moss-263756036?q=gallery%3Ainsanelyzanter%2F12975544&qo=2

Villain that may be used for either comic. Just pencils. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/art/Also-Lord-Of-Runes-264164629?q=gallery%3Ainsanelyzanter&qo=0

Widening my media range to make a decent art-school portfolio. Drew the above guy with charcoal. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/art/Lord-of-Runes-264164454?q=gallery%3Ainsanelyzanter&qo=1

Have at ye.

Behold, art. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/
piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#389: Oct 20th 2011 at 4:43:27 AM

@AHR Walk or run around and notice how your arms and legs are moving. Notice how the left arm moves forward with the right leg and vice versa? Now try walkng with the same arm and the same leg moving in the same direction...feels really weird, huh? Now look at your pic again..that seems like a big reason why the pose looks weird.

edited 20th Oct '11 4:44:09 AM by piearty

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#390: Oct 20th 2011 at 5:38:38 AM

...—fake runs in small room—

I think I get it.

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#391: Oct 20th 2011 at 10:10:45 AM

Good reference poses in any angle: Posemaniacs.com! If you don't mind a lack of skin.

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#392: Oct 20th 2011 at 8:31:46 PM

I'd like some critique on this picture, which is some fanart for Goblins Life Through Their Eyes.

I'm... not sure I can see anything to mention in any of Zanter's stuff, except that I'm not sure what's going on with the shadows in the first pic. What's casting the straight-edged shadow over the left-most person?

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piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#393: Oct 21st 2011 at 9:38:15 PM

Yeah those are some freaky shadows. It looks like there's a light source in the center, the left AND the right, which...doesn't make sense. The guy on the left has a damn skinny waist btw. Whatever, chalk it up to extreme stylistic choice or something I guess maybe. But he's still ridiculously off center. He's definitely gonna fall over or stumble in about 2 seconds.

fanart pic: uhhhh so snakes' bodies don't do that. They can make really big and extreme curves but not small tiny arcs like that. Like your tongue, you know? You can bend it and twist it and make it into a little 'oh' shape but you can't fit two tiny little arcs into there. The muscle isn't that uh, finessed. That's the main issue.

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#394: Oct 21st 2011 at 10:04:49 PM

Really? Snakes seem pretty flexible to me. Observe.

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Zanter Zanter from Your potted plant Since: Feb, 2010
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#395: Oct 21st 2011 at 10:46:17 PM

I think the real issue with the snake is the changing directions so close together. And the body looks lumpy. To many small bends that change the width I guess. The human parts are pretty good, she looks awful stiff though. Though I guess if her spine leads into the snake's spine, her posture would not be very relaxed in that pose.

The shadows were mostly because I was being rather lazy when I was making it. It was two drawings that I thought fit together well.

The skinniness is fully intentional, trying to make my character designs more lively. But it is the first thing that literally everyone I have shown him to has pointed out. So it might be to much. The pose is undeniably ridiculousness now that I look at it.

Any impressions on the guy in the fourth link would be appreciated. Personality, social standing, whatever. Imagine him without the knife and at wal-mart buying toilet paper or something.

Behold, art. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/
betterthanstrawberry Dreaming out loud. from back in the atmosphere. Since: Sep, 2010
Dreaming out loud.
#396: Oct 22nd 2011 at 4:05:06 AM

The title could've been a tiny bit more minimalistic, I think... also the grainy background doesn't match all that well with the style of the foreground, and his expression might need some tweaking to better complement or contrast the cleaver. But overall, wonderful design!

Something I did for my English class... thoughts?

Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure Science.
piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#397: Oct 22nd 2011 at 8:55:08 AM

[up][up] Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, heh. Not excellent with words.

Now you...character variation is good, but you can only push things so far in a style before it gets weird looking. Your style is cartoony, yes, but the people still have humanish proportions. And then there's the waist that's not even as wide as the guy's head. So yeah, know your style's limits.
Your fourth pic's pretty good. I do agree that the title could be a little more minimalistic; right now it jut looks kinda cheesy. I like the guy's expression though! He's like "I am so vaguely irritated with the world right now. Time to fix it. With a cleaver." I also think it's interesting that you had him looking off to the side; whenever I see pics like this the person usually is looking straight at the viewers. It's more intense that way. Oh and one more thing: The colors you picked made me notice the tiny bottle at his feet before the huge knife. Give it a more muted color so it fits in with everything else and the cleaver will pop out even more.

[up] Gosh this pic looks cool, not gonna lie. I love the unraveling flag. Unfortunately either the person's torso is too short or their limbs are too long. I have no idea what's on their back...a...baby? The perfectly circular head and weirdly straight body are throwing me off. Also, I like the simple way you conveyed the ground as a red stroke that also implies sand, but you used the same stroke for the helicopter. It made me think that the horizon line was just reeeeeeeaaaaly far away and a gigantic helicopter was flying parallel to it.

edit: whoa this is long...maybe I write too much.

edited 22nd Oct '11 8:56:21 AM by piearty

betterthanstrawberry Dreaming out loud. from back in the atmosphere. Since: Sep, 2010
Dreaming out loud.
#398: Oct 22nd 2011 at 2:20:09 PM

Thank you very much! The thing on his back was supposed to be a backpack... and the red thing was supposed to be trails of blood. As you know, English class.

Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure Science.
piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
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#399: Oct 22nd 2011 at 6:09:19 PM

Hmm still looks like curvy ground to me. I like my interpretation better :P

Zanter Zanter from Your potted plant Since: Feb, 2010
Zanter
#400: Oct 25th 2011 at 6:57:10 PM

Huh, I'll have to edit that. The knife is not supposed to be super obvious, but the bottle certantly was not intended to be a centerpiece. Glad you like the eyes, the idea was theat he is looking at one of the other characters. I liked the result.

Some more concept art for the same comic.

http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/#/d4dyp93

And I colored that other piece. http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/#/d4dcvv2

EDIT: looks like I snagged the 400th post. I will reward myself with more carpel tunnel inducing exercises.

edited 25th Oct '11 7:07:05 PM by Zanter

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