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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
Your army sucks.
#3751: Jan 3rd 2011 at 6:19:10 AM

I think the reason why I top the dps charts in raids is because everyone else in my guild is either drunk, tired, or both...

Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!
Rotpar Always 3:00 am in the Filth (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Always 3:00 am in the Filth
#3752: Jan 3rd 2011 at 6:57:49 AM

I wish they didn't add XP for gathering in the first place. I attempted to get my mining/herbalism caught up on my new level 30 shaman while waiting for friends to catch up, it ate all my rest and I'm now 31 and still not caught up.

But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#3753: Jan 3rd 2011 at 7:11:11 AM

You're complaining about getting XP for an activity that you did not previously? Does Not Compute. Rested XP is a resource that is consumed by gathering skills as well as killing mobs - it's still the same amount of XP regardless.

The only thing that bothers me about gathering skill-based leveling is that you get no gear or rep for it, so if you, as some people have attempted, level 80-85 solely from Archaeology, your gearing will be pathetic for 85 and you will still have to go back and quest to get into dungeons.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3754: Jan 3rd 2011 at 7:15:23 AM

^^You can turn off the XP gain if you are bothered by getting further ahead of your friends.

Rotpar Always 3:00 am in the Filth (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Always 3:00 am in the Filth
#3755: Jan 3rd 2011 at 7:54:41 AM

If they made this change a year ago, I'd be cool with it, anything to burn throuugh old Azeroth for the Xth time. But with the new exciting world to play in it's really unneeded. I'm rather sad that the bulk of the new content is really only for loremasters, single questhubs can burn you through a zone's level range anymore.

But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you.
Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3756: Jan 3rd 2011 at 8:01:55 AM

^Well, they are adjusted to people who don't have any exp-boosts. No heirlooms, no guild exp, no gathering profs. So if you have any of them (or all), you burn through insanely quick.

On the other hand, nothing stops you from dropping (most of) the bonuses, or ignoring the level discrepancy.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#3757: Jan 3rd 2011 at 8:46:17 AM

On the other hand, "skinning nodes" take much longer to kill and skin than normal nodes. And they fight back.

Not to mention there are considerably less of them than before. Cataclysm replaced a lot of skinnable quest zones with humanoids or unskinnable monsters because WAR. Between that and leveling so much faster, you're about 30 points behind being able to get to the next tier of leatherworking before that kind of leather stops dropping altogether, and you either have to farm for silly amounts of time or buy stuff off the AH for 50-100g a stack which is rather inconvenient if you're a non-established reroller.

edited 3rd Jan '11 12:34:31 PM by Pykrete

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#3758: Jan 3rd 2011 at 12:17:44 PM

^^ Exactly. My paladin stuck with the Stonetalon quests long after she'd outleveled them just for the story.

Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#3760: Jan 3rd 2011 at 2:11:30 PM

She's a mage/thief.

Blizzard I love you.

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
"Justice!"
#3761: Jan 3rd 2011 at 2:17:34 PM

Huh. And she was there for ages surprised
She's a mage/thief.

Blizzard I love you.

I'm not buying it. Seems like a coincidence to me.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#3762: Jan 3rd 2011 at 2:27:52 PM

I'm not buying it either. When Blizzard makes references they make them obvious. This is an interesting coincidence, but still just within the realm of coincidence.

edited 3rd Jan '11 2:28:17 PM by Clarste

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#3763: Jan 3rd 2011 at 3:05:22 PM

I seem to be missing a reference here.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#3765: Jan 3rd 2011 at 3:25:04 PM

Touhou, eh? That would do it, I know nothing about the franchise.

SuperDimensionman "Justice!" from the future. Since: Nov, 2009
"Justice!"
#3766: Jan 3rd 2011 at 3:40:08 PM

^^ Then again, they did end up making a clear one later anyway.

In no way does that undermine the assertion that the given name of the esteemed Ms. du'Paige is a complete coincidence. Even ignoring how uncharacteristically subtle it would be, I'm dubious of the assumption that anyone on the dev team had the knowledge to be able to make such a reference in 2004.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#3767: Jan 3rd 2011 at 5:33:45 PM

COME ON. Blizzard makes them all but heavy handed. that's way too subtle to be more than a coincidence.

Harrison Jones and the Temple of Uldum? The Coffer of Promise? super easy and obvious references.

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
Cure Candy
#3768: Jan 3rd 2011 at 5:58:55 PM

References have always been easy to spot its just these were a little high profile than most.

If you play horde talk to the Horde Negotiator you are suppose to escort at the start of the Dragonmaw questline.

He says "Does this shirt make me look expendable." and when you get there this little scene happens...

  • Horde Negotiator says: This is madness!
  • Warchief Mor'ghor says: This is...
  • Warchief Mor'ghor yells: DRAGONMAW!

edited 3rd Jan '11 5:59:32 PM by Raso

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
syvaris Since: Dec, 2009
#3769: Jan 3rd 2011 at 6:45:17 PM

[up] I am still waiting for the quest were we help Garrosh bomb the Nigh Elves giant tree, while we all enjoy some coffee.

The Harrison Jones quests were fun, needed more boulders though and needed Harrison's father to show up. Blizz can make some funny references, but they are never subtle. Of course considering half the players come across as complete and utter fucking retards "subtle" might mean 99% of people missing it.

You will never love a women as much as George Lucas hates his fans.
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#3770: Jan 3rd 2011 at 8:40:09 PM

That comes at the end of the Stonetalon Mountain quest lines, and it's Warlord Krom'gar who bombs the tree.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#3771: Jan 3rd 2011 at 11:17:21 PM

Nearly at the end of Outland, or at least as much as I'm doing of it (I'll probably stop at the end of this quest hub in Blade's Edge and farm the shit out of leather until I hit 375).

I was the only one that ran out of Ikiss's Arcane Explosion, even after warning the party. And I was tanking — because the prot warrior didn't know what Thunderclap was and didn't know that you're supposed to have a gun to make pulls without grabbing three crowds at a time and risking getting feared into a fourth. And as the tank I outdps'ed the rogue by three times.

How am I even playing the same game as these people o.O

edited 3rd Jan '11 11:18:02 PM by Pykrete

arimnaes Falls Up Since: Apr, 2009
Falls Up
#3772: Jan 3rd 2011 at 11:53:51 PM

Huzzah! I managed 14k DPS on Argaloth tonight, topping my raid group. Switching to Fire has really paid off.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#3773: Jan 4th 2011 at 12:37:59 AM

We downed Cho'gall tonight. Other than the token, all leather drops when we have no leather users. He seemed easier than Al'akir.

Unfortunately tommorrow we're restarting 25 man raids, so this was our last 10 man group. Our progression is now effectively reset, and somehow I doubt it'll be as easy with 25 people. Even if the fights themselves magically have the same difficulty in some sense, larger groups inherently have more people who are merely "okay" rather than "good".

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#3774: Jan 4th 2011 at 2:58:42 AM

Fire is good for gratuitous amounts of damage, but I feel like I have a lot more control over arcane.

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#3775: Jan 4th 2011 at 3:10:26 AM

I'm not sure how many situations there are where gratuitous amounts of damage isn't your goal, or at least a very helpful step towards reaching your goal.

edited 4th Jan '11 3:10:37 AM by Clarste


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