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mmysqueeant I'm A Dirty Cowboy from Essairrrrcks Since: Oct, 2010
I'm A Dirty Cowboy
#44076: May 26th 2011 at 5:03:06 PM

[up] That is awesome. I remember that from a collection of such things I had in my youth.

Jumpingzombie Since: Jan, 2001
#44077: May 26th 2011 at 5:08:43 PM

One of my favorite Lewis Caroll poems, which doesn't get quite as much recognition, I don't think anyway, as some of his other stuff.

mmysqueeant I'm A Dirty Cowboy from Essairrrrcks Since: Oct, 2010
I'm A Dirty Cowboy
#44078: May 26th 2011 at 5:10:26 PM

Oh wow, I thought it was later than that.

Definitely one of my favourite nonsense(?) poems.

Jumpingzombie Since: Jan, 2001
#44079: May 26th 2011 at 5:15:30 PM

The Hunting Of The Snark is a good one, too. A Nonsense Narrative poem.

I have an affection for Ogden Nash's stuff as well...

Isabel met an enormous bear,
Isabel, Isabel, didn't care;
The bear was hungry, the bear was ravenous,
The bear's big mouth was cruel and cavernous.
The bear said, Isabel, glad to meet you,
How do, Isabel, now I'll eat you!
Isabel, Isabel, didn't worry.
Isabel didn't scream or scurry.
She washed her hands and she straightened her hair up,
Then Isabel quietly ate the bear up.
Once in a night as black as pitch
Isabel met a wicked old witch.
the witch's face was cross and wrinkled,
The witch's gums with teeth were sprinkled.
Ho, ho, Isabel! the old witch crowed,
I'll turn you into an ugly toad!
Isabel, Isabel, didn't worry,
Isabel didn't scream or scurry,
She showed no rage and she showed no rancor,
But she turned the witch into milk and drank her.

Isabel met a hideous giant,
Isabel continued self reliant.
The giant was hairy, the giant was horrid,
He had one eye in the middle of his forhead.
Good morning, Isabel, the giant said,
I’ll grind your bones to make my bread.
Isabel, Isabel, didn’t worry,
Isabel didn’t scream or scurry.
She nibled the zwieback that she always fed off,
And when it was gone, she cut the giant’s head off.

Isabel met a troublesome doctor,
He punched and he poked till he really shocked her.
The doctor’s talk was of coughs and chills
And the doctor’s satchel bulged with pills.
The doctor said unto Isabel,
Swallow this, it will make you well.
Isabel, Isabel, didn’t worry,
Isabel didn’t scream or scurry.
She took those pills from the pill concocter,
And Isabel calmly cured the doctor.

Some of his rhymes are really pushing it, though.

mmysqueeant I'm A Dirty Cowboy from Essairrrrcks Since: Oct, 2010
I'm A Dirty Cowboy
#44080: May 26th 2011 at 5:27:42 PM

Some of his rhymes are really pushing it, though.

Thank god. Full rhymes have their place but really, that place is in song or in song-like poems.

SERIOUS FACE AHEAD DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO SERIOUS FACE

The days when every poem had to have a complete rhyme were, I think, marked by a notable scarcity of successful (or at the very least of wholly successful) poems. We have a glut of great poets now, so many in fact that it's tough to keep track of them all, and I think that's very much because of the fact they are free to use structures and forms if they fit the poem, and abandon them all together if they don't.

In the Renaissance, when poets were consistently using rigid structures with repeated success, and it was some kind of socio-cultural norm to use rigid structure of some kind with a poem, there were two features that I believe 'explain away' the success of these poems: the forms were new forms, or new variations on song forms, adapted so they fit the language and diction of the time or specific poet perfectly well, the forms were old but the language (especially English) was, or perhaps merely appeared to be, much more fluid than it was today, allowing for greater flexibility in supposedly very rigid forms.

dun serious mode now, if you disagree with any of that i guess i dunno maybe something something something

EDIT: ahaha format fail

edited 26th May '11 5:29:07 PM by mmysqueeant

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#44081: May 26th 2011 at 5:33:00 PM

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Jumpingzombie Since: Jan, 2001
#44082: May 26th 2011 at 5:34:53 PM

My problem with half rhymes is when they feel out of place. Like, you have it all rhyme, then you crap out on the last rhyme of the third verse. Either make it less restrictive or find a better rhyme. You're aiming to make everything full rhyme, stop masquerading that one rhyme as one (Ogden Nash doesn't really apply in this case).

MidnightVelvet Since: Apr, 2014
#44083: May 26th 2011 at 5:36:13 PM

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CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
AnonymousUser Since: Jan, 2001
#44085: May 26th 2011 at 5:42:19 PM

I imagine WOW is doing maintenance, so it is WCAU TIME

^OHAI

edited 26th May '11 5:42:57 PM by AnonymousUser

mmysqueeant I'm A Dirty Cowboy from Essairrrrcks Since: Oct, 2010
I'm A Dirty Cowboy
#44086: May 26th 2011 at 5:42:54 PM

Eh, sometimes, it's true, a half-rhyme seems a cop-out. But often the half-rhyme is used as a joke, speshully in Ogden Nash, or more commonly to soften the end of a stanza which can be ridiculously harsh.

I 100% agree that if you're obviously committing to a full-on moon/spoon/June thing, adding something else seems weird. Sometimes that weirdness works for you, sometimes it doesn't. The best rhymes are, I think, the ones that you don't even notice on your first read through of the poem. I once read a sonnet four times before realising it was a sonnet.

Someone once said that "poetry is the art of forcing knife to rhyme with fork". Obviously, they were being facetious, but there's a serious point in there, that rhyming is about picking up and emphasising meaning and of course sounds, more than it is about some technical aspect of language.

such a helpful sign...◊

That seems rather specific. Is it someone's incredibly long drive or something? Why would they even need that

edited 26th May '11 5:44:16 PM by mmysqueeant

AnonymousUser Since: Jan, 2001
#44087: May 26th 2011 at 5:46:11 PM

For some reason the fact that Impact V.1 dates to 1994 (though not this version, WCAU commissioned it in 1995) is bizarre to me

CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
Literally A Princess
#44088: May 26th 2011 at 5:46:13 PM

From what I understand, US 89 turned off that road a while back, but a lot of people miss the turn. So they have a big "THIS IS NOT US 89" so people find out their mistake before they get too far off track.

A similar sign with a different design

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AnonymousUser Since: Jan, 2001
#44089: May 26th 2011 at 5:47:46 PM

they don't do that with anything else, do they

CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
Literally A Princess
#44090: May 26th 2011 at 5:50:10 PM

I don't think so. It just seems to be a special case for what's apparently an especially confusing route.

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yarrunmace Ghosts' Poet from Seine Since: Jun, 2009
Ghosts' Poet
#44091: May 26th 2011 at 5:50:50 PM

What if the federal government helped people with other mistakes?

"GOING TO THE CASINO WILL NOT MAKE YOU RICH. GO HOME AND BE A FAMILY MAN"

edited 26th May '11 5:52:19 PM by yarrunmace

you'll then have a grave in the clouds where you won't lie too cramped
Jumpingzombie Since: Jan, 2001
#44092: May 26th 2011 at 5:51:36 PM

That sign seems very cryptic.

AlirozTheConfused Bibliophile. from Daz Huat! Since: May, 2010
Bibliophile.
#44093: May 26th 2011 at 5:53:42 PM

Having A Family Will Not Solve Overpopulation. Spay or Sterilize Yourselves. Now Go Home And Enjoy Your Life.

Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.
Jumpingzombie Since: Jan, 2001
#44094: May 26th 2011 at 5:55:15 PM

@mmysqueeant: That's true. I probably didn't phrase my first comment about Nash's use very well and it came off as more vitriolic than I meant. It works for humor, but not as well for poems where the author is trying to adhere to making the rhymes full on. If that makes sense.

AnonymousUser Since: Jan, 2001
#44095: May 26th 2011 at 5:58:52 PM

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edited 26th May '11 5:59:11 PM by AnonymousUser

yarrunmace Ghosts' Poet from Seine Since: Jun, 2009
Ghosts' Poet
#44096: May 26th 2011 at 5:59:14 PM

Watching the movie Beowulf will not help you. Go back and actually read the thing

you'll then have a grave in the clouds where you won't lie too cramped
CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
Literally A Princess
#44097: May 26th 2011 at 6:02:14 PM

I'd almost make a forum game of this, but I'd want to title it "This Is Not US 89", and only the four or five of us would get that.

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CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
Literally A Princess
#44099: May 26th 2011 at 6:05:09 PM

The "government signs warning people of mistakes" thing.

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AnonymousUser Since: Jan, 2001
#44100: May 26th 2011 at 6:07:37 PM

Right.

...why do I want to post more tacky shit


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