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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#113101: Sep 14th 2025 at 8:25:48 AM

And we see eight of the Nine Holy Knights in full. Garling, Sommers, and Gunko we already know. Three we saw in the Kuma flashback - a pretty woman who resembles Hiyori somewhat, another, smaller woman with a big floppy hat and a Psychotic Smirk, and a guy that looks like a stereotypical sword-and-sorcery "dark mage" with a black robe and a skull helmet. The two brand new ones are a tall woman with bi-colored hair and horns and a GIGANTIC oni-looking elderly man with not just horns but sharp teeth and bat wings, much like Magellan and Hannyabal. So yes, in a rarity for Oda's miniboss squads, half are women!

I presume the unseen ninth member is Garling's predecessor as Commander. Killingham's not here either which presumably means at least two of these aren't active in the present, to free up the spaces for him and Shamrock.

Jcppcntn98 (Pilot) Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#113102: Sep 14th 2025 at 8:34:50 AM

Killingham could also be young enough to not have been around for the God Valley incident, since his real appearence looks pretty youthful despite his Zoan form looking like an old man.

AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#113103: Sep 14th 2025 at 8:43:28 AM

Whitebeard remains badass and not ridiculous lol.

As long as this flower is in my heart. My Strength will flow without end.
diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#113104: Sep 14th 2025 at 8:43:43 AM

Wait, considering Gunko's title, do all the Celestial Dragons know about Imu? I guess I had no reason to think this, but I always assumed only the highest ranking ones would know. Most Celestial Dragons seem stupid ans boisterous enough that them knowing would be a security risk. Or maybe they know Gunko's title, but don't fully know what it refers to?

Anyway, Dragon doing the best he can! But as for the Rocks and Roger Pirates and Garp, they haven't really done anything we didn't know about... Yet.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#113105: Sep 14th 2025 at 8:50:37 AM

And now that we KNOW why the Marines don't defy the Nobles... uhh, notice how Fujitora seems to be operating entirely alone since Dressrosa? Did Bastille, Maynard, and the rest of his men that humbled themselves publicly end up quite literally getting the axe?

Jcppcntn98 (Pilot) Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#113106: Sep 14th 2025 at 8:57:07 AM

It seemed like Fujitora resolved to go solo after the confrontation with Akainu, but if that was another angle it'd make sense for sure.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#113107: Sep 14th 2025 at 8:58:10 AM

The WG is big on Revenge by Proxy stuff, so it could go either way.

Wake me up at your own risk.
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#113108: Sep 14th 2025 at 9:04:32 AM

[up][up][up] Dragon said the punishment was specifically for defying the orders of the Celestial Dragons I'm pretty sure?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#113109: Sep 14th 2025 at 9:06:31 AM

In other news, I've decided to take a break from OP for the near future. As I've remarked on before I really do love Oda's flashback arcs, but I find them difficult to read week to week for whatever reason. Plus I need less screen time and OP is the main reason I come back to these forums lol. Nothing against you guys as people, of course! I'll be back and catch up, not sure when, just "when I feel like it."

But... I wanted to leave you with a rather haunting WMG that popped into my head. Because I think I have good guess for Blackbeard's motive now...

...and I think it's Put Them All Out of My Misery. We know he "wants the world," and extremely powerful Devil Fruits, so... maybe he feels that a world where the God Valley Genocide could happen doesn't deserve to live, and he wants to destroy the world, both to punish his childhood oppressors and give the innocent the "relief" of death? "The lives of the wicked should be made brief; for the rest of us death will be a relief..."

dArtagnanMusic Since: Oct, 2022
#113110: Sep 14th 2025 at 9:17:47 AM

It's gonna be really hard to make Teach and Xebecs unsympathetic after that chapter.
I saw someone speculate that the reason Teach doesn't sleep is that he developped life-long PTSD from the event and whenever he does sleep he has nightmares of it.

Also, Garp is sure as shit not beating the allegations.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#113111: Sep 14th 2025 at 9:34:51 AM
Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#113112: Sep 14th 2025 at 9:36:23 AM

>inb4 someone says that Garp sucking was already well known at this point, and is not new information

Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
dArtagnanMusic Since: Oct, 2022
#113113: Sep 14th 2025 at 9:40:32 AM

I just had an idea of how to make Garp sympathetic again in the next chapter.
He sees a Celestial Dragon about to be killed by a pirate, and explicitly doesn't save them, thinking to himself "serve them right for making these hunts". He was already willing to let them die until he learned Roger was on God Valley, after all.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#113114: Sep 14th 2025 at 9:51:53 AM

[up]I think that's pretty much all Garp can do regarding World Nobles getting their just desserts.

Sure, he's popular among the Marines, but even that only goes so far, and I highly doubt that the World Nobles, especially the Holy Knights of God, care that much for his reputation. They certainly wouldn't have any hesitation calling for his death if he actively opposed them.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Sep 14th 2025 at 10:09:47 AM

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
Archsage Professional Simp from My House Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Professional Simp
#113115: Sep 14th 2025 at 11:08:45 AM

Honestly I don't even know how Fujitora is still alive considering Imu can just teleport all of the Knights on his head whenever they want. Theoretically, anyways.

Best advice I ever got? Keep repeating the joke till everyone is forced to laugh.
Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#113116: Sep 14th 2025 at 11:14:07 AM

My guess is that Imu just doesn't care that much. Based on what we know so far from Vegapunk's message, Imu is much more concerned about getting the mother flame, sinking the world, and whatever happens after that.

Fujitora freeing some slaves or attacking some Celestial Dragons in the cross fire is probably a tertiary concern at best to Imu.

Along that same line of thought, Imu cares about Elbaf because the Holy Land is actually being affected by the delay and because the giants are related to the prophecy.

So, unless Imu or the God's Knights want to get involved, the only person who could actually punish Fujitora is Akainu because the marines are the military arm of the world government.

Edited by Freshwater on Sep 14th 2025 at 11:18:50 AM

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#113117: Sep 14th 2025 at 11:33:32 AM

Now that Dragon's finally gotten to do something, maybe next chapter Garp will do something?

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#113118: Sep 14th 2025 at 11:34:08 AM

Cant wait to see Dragon give a big "Reason You Suck" Speech to Garp before leaving the Marines forever after this.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Sep 14th 2025 at 8:34:23 PM

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#113119: Sep 14th 2025 at 11:52:19 AM

I will say, other then the Dragon stuff, a bit of new Gunko background, and a tiny bit of Teech, this chapter felt like one of those that's kind of spinning its wheels for a lot of its runtime with stuff we already know. Dare I say, if this was an anime episode, I would think this was filler.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#113120: Sep 14th 2025 at 12:00:01 PM

Honestly I don't even know how Fujitora is still alive considering Imu can just teleport all of the Knights on his head whenever they want. Theoretically, anyways.

It's because he has plausible deniability. He is "doing his job" but in a way that happens to make it harder for people defending the Holy Land.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#113121: Sep 14th 2025 at 2:21:36 PM

I think everything with Garp will made clear within the next few chapters. “The next few” because one might end with Garp actually seeing what’s going on with his own eyes and/or it comes away from him before for a bit.

It also occurs to me that he might end up so laser-focused on Roger that he actually doesn’t notice everything else, though that might strain credulity.

Either way, I expect this may be building to a confrontation between him and Dragon, in which case it would probably take a bit to naturally reach that point anyway.

And now that we KNOW why the Marines don't defy the Nobles... uhh, notice how Fujitora seems to be operating entirely alone since Dressrosa? Did Bastille, Maynard, and the rest of his men that humbled themselves publicly end up quite literally getting the axe?

Fujitora doesn’t seem like he’d just sacrifice his own men like that, even if it was in service of a genuine greater good. Perhaps he’s operating on his own now precisely so that only he would face the consequences of his actions.

Oh God! Natural light!
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#113122: Sep 14th 2025 at 6:00:47 PM

I'd seen someone else calculating that if the Celestial Dragons have been doing their hunts since the beginning they've wiped out about 50 more islands than there are under the protection of the World Government, and that if God Valley is typical for the population of the islands they target the Celestial Dragons have murdered approximately 25 million people.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#113123: Sep 14th 2025 at 6:07:52 PM

Don't they target unaffiliated islands?

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#113124: Sep 14th 2025 at 6:14:10 PM

Yes.

What I meant is the number of unaffiliated islands they've wiped out if this has existed since the beginning would be greater than the number of affiliated islands.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#113125: Sep 14th 2025 at 6:25:04 PM

Wasn't the WG established 800 years ago? That would be 266 competitions, wouldn't it?


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