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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79851: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:44:33 AM

I guess there's such a thing as too chaotic.

When you set up so many characters and plot threads that even barreling through the story, it will still take a while to get things done.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:45:13 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#79852: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:45:01 AM

The most recent manga volume starts at Luffy, Kid, and Law saving the Scabbards at sea, and ends with Yamato introducing himself to Luffy. Not a lot of plot happens in that span of time, despite a TON happening in those chapters.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:45:35 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#79853: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:48:16 AM

Reading One Piece is the literary equivalent of a Big Ball of Violence. There's a lot going on within the ball of violence that's hard to follow, but the ball itself is moving at a snail's pace.

Disgusted, but not surprised
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#79854: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:52:53 AM

Can you believe it's been 19 chapters since the end of the Oden flashback? It feels like a contradiction in my mind. It feels like WAY TOO MUCH has happened since then for it to just be 19 chapters, but then it also feels like the story hasn't actually moved a whole lot in those 19 chapters.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#79855: Oct 23rd 2020 at 3:01:05 AM

The issue in One Piece is that Oda likes to tackle multiple POV's in each chapter with a bunch of plot threads running concurrently.

Other Shonen works would probably focus on an individual battle for one or two chapters then go on to focus on a different battle. YMMV on which approach works better.

It probably also doesn't help that doing things Oda's way means that each chapter involves a lot of drawing and editing, meaning Oda gets burned out faster, leading to him needing to take breaks.

All this said...One Piece has been like this for a while. If it's the sort of thing that's a dealbreaker for a reader, said reader would have dropped the series long ago.

Edited by M84 on Oct 23rd 2020 at 6:03:37 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#79856: Oct 23rd 2020 at 4:10:24 AM

Personally, I think I prefer the story focus of post-timeskip over the action focus of pre-timeskip.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#79857: Oct 23rd 2020 at 5:08:17 AM

Pre-timeskip feels more character focused not action focused.

Which makes sense, pre-timeskip was dedicated to introducing the characters and the world they lived in so there's a lot more emotional attachment.

So the focus shifting from the Strawhats in general to the world at large was going to be a controversial one.

Things were just simpler pre-timeskip

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#79858: Oct 23rd 2020 at 5:17:26 AM

Spoilers out for #993.

...Damn, hopefully Kiku isn't left-handed...

Edited by jouXIII on Oct 23rd 2020 at 3:18:56 PM

I assure you, I'm perfectly trustable person
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#79859: Oct 23rd 2020 at 5:47:15 AM

Ooooh, now the spoilers make sense.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
Good for nothing
#79860: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:00:18 PM

The best part of the chapter is the Headliner named Briscola. Finally an Italian card game. Now I'll wait for Scopa, Scala 40 and Machiavelli.

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up
ShiningStardust Since: Jun, 2017
#79861: Oct 23rd 2020 at 7:11:08 PM

I wonder if there's any relation with the whole "many things happened but the plot moves at a snail's pace" thing with how Japan tends to want a franchise's manga/visual novel to stay way ahead of the anime series, and how Oda deals with that on his own franchise.

Edited by ShiningStardust on Oct 23rd 2020 at 9:11:56 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#79862: Oct 24th 2020 at 2:50:21 PM

Ya know this was a lot shorter than I expected.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
VulgarBee I AM KING OF THE BEACH!! from End of the Other Side Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
I AM KING OF THE BEACH!!
#79863: Oct 24th 2020 at 5:26:58 PM

Where would the villains go in the Sliding Scale of Villain Threat page?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#79864: Oct 24th 2020 at 6:51:12 PM

Most One Piece main villains are at Regional Threat, varying between State/Province Threat and National Threat. The Emperors are at a Continental Threat (ruling over dozens of country-sized islands is equivalent to a continent). The World Government is a Planetary Threat, by virtue of being the government of the entire world (aside from the New World, a relatively small part of the planet being just half of the Grand Line, and they've even started making moves there recently).

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#79865: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:18:38 AM

New chapter

Oof. Looks like the tide is already turning in Kaido's favor.

Yamato vs Sasaki coming up? Since Sasaki runs the armored division I'm going to speculate he has the Ankylosaurus Zoan fruit.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#79866: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:32:08 AM

Don't worry Kiku! That'll grow back!

One Strip! One Strip!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#79867: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:47:13 AM

Let's give Kiku a hand everybody.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#79868: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:55:36 AM

Good idea.[lol]

She needs it.

One Strip! One Strip!
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#79869: Oct 25th 2020 at 10:01:31 AM

No, give that hand to Gotti and Lola. Lola especially, she finally managed her life's ambition... though now she'll need to change her pirate nickname.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#79870: Oct 25th 2020 at 10:05:31 AM

Guess Horikoshi let Oda borrow his Star Wars blu-rays.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#79871: Oct 25th 2020 at 10:44:34 AM

Oh no, Oda was already a fan. Notably, he's a fan of the prequel trilogy.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#79872: Oct 25th 2020 at 11:00:11 AM

Well, that certainly puts Shanks losing his arm early on in a new light.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#79873: Oct 25th 2020 at 11:02:46 AM

Proving that just because you're a good writer doesn't mean you have good taste.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#79874: Oct 25th 2020 at 11:04:23 AM

Hate for the prequels is overblown.

I mean all Star Wars movies are shit, anyway, who cares which smells worst.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#79875: Oct 25th 2020 at 11:06:44 AM

"The set of movies I grew up with is better"

"No, the set I grew up with is better."

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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