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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71651: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:16:12 AM

It's not like good people in bad crews is anything new in OP. Just look at Gin, Hachi, and Mr 2.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#71652: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:36:21 AM

Oh huh, the name of Blackbeard's flagship is Saber of Xebec.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71653: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:50:04 AM

This whole story makes me think of what Oda said about a legend of the One Piece world showing himself in Wano, or whatever his words were.

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#71654: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:59:48 AM

I don't think he said Wano specifically, just that a lurking legend related to Whtiebeard would be introduced soon.

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#71655: Sep 27th 2019 at 10:04:56 AM

Theories are already going around that Teach is a protege, or even a relative, of Rocks, and his ultimate goal in becoming Pirate King is to avenge Rocks' loss to Roger.

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WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#71656: Sep 27th 2019 at 10:06:46 AM

My favorite one is that he somehow has his soul inside of him and that's why he can have two devil fruits.

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#71657: Sep 27th 2019 at 11:02:19 AM

God I hope this doesn't result in a Kaguya-ing.

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#71658: Sep 27th 2019 at 11:09:49 AM

We're like a hundred chaps before it matters probably.

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#71659: Sep 27th 2019 at 11:09:53 AM

Does the timeline line up for Luffy to literally be a reincarnation of Roger?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71660: Sep 27th 2019 at 11:16:36 AM

Only if there's a four/five year delay or otherwise not instantly being born as soon as your past life dies.

Luffy was born approximately five years following Roger's death (it was 22 years ago at the start of the story when Luffy was 17).

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71661: Sep 27th 2019 at 2:35:41 PM

I like the detail of Kaido only being an apprentice in Rocks. It fits well with that novel saying he is of a later generation than Whitebeard and Big Mom.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 27th 2019 at 4:37:32 AM

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#71662: Sep 27th 2019 at 2:41:21 PM

Also the Western theater release for Stampede has been announced.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-09-27/funimation-reveals-english-dub-cast-advance-ticket-sales-for-one-piece-stampede-film/.151592

October 24 for U.S. & Canada, you can preorder tickets.

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#71663: Sep 27th 2019 at 2:50:06 PM

The statement that Kaido and Linlin are much stronger now than they were in their youth was pretty interesting.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Sep 27th 2019 at 4:51:22 AM

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Zistal Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#71664: Sep 27th 2019 at 4:41:41 PM

I don't think Luffy can be Roger reincarnated considering how their personalities differ. Roger was far more vicious at times, with incidents like him slaughtering Squard's crew, and "retreat" wasn't a word in his dictionary (put him in Luffy's shoes at WCI, and he wouldn't have escaped while Jinbe covered for him). They also have fairly different ideas about how to compose a crew.

Marineford and the Goa Kingdom flashback established that Ace was the one who resembled Roger the most.

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#71665: Sep 27th 2019 at 5:38:26 PM

So ever see one of those fan theories that everyone seems to believe, but then they get proven wrong and looking back you wonder why anyone ever thought they were logical at all?

"The Emperors are so dangerous they wouldn't even bother giving them bounties" is having that effect on me right now.

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#71666: Sep 27th 2019 at 6:17:12 PM

[up][up][up]Assuming Kaido isn't fully human, maybe whatever species he is grows Stronger with Age. Whatever it is about Linlin that made her so unusually strong even as a child may have also given her that trait.

Poor Newgate (Whitebeard) otoh was an ordinary (by One Piece standards) human. Time could and did do its dirty work on him.

[up][up]The only thing Luffy really has in common with Roger is the same thing a lot of people with the Will of D have — fearlessness in the face of death.

Edited by M84 on Sep 27th 2019 at 9:21:18 PM

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#71667: Sep 27th 2019 at 8:48:01 PM

[up]x6

Also explains how he was captured or "defeated" so many times despite the fact that he's so ungodly strong/invincible. It's because he wasn't even in his prime.

G Oda delivers yet again.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71668: Sep 27th 2019 at 9:10:22 PM

So if you, like me, don't keep taps of every single One Piece detail you might have also missed some interesting things like how that Captain John that was a part of Rocks was one of Moriah's top zombies and also it was his treasure that Buggy is searching for.

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#71669: Sep 27th 2019 at 9:33:54 PM

Shiki also gets a mention. The question of whether or not Strong World is canon to the manga is still confusing.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#71670: Sep 27th 2019 at 9:38:10 PM

The tack I take for the Oda involved movies is that the worldbuilding details are canon, but the events themselves are not.

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#71671: Sep 28th 2019 at 12:13:03 AM

Although I'm pretty sure Strong World itself is actually canon. At least, I haven't heard anything about it being rendered non-canon, like what happened with Film Z.

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#71672: Sep 28th 2019 at 3:20:59 AM

Yeah, didn't Oda actually say that he wanted film Z to be canon but he just couldn't fit it in the timeline?

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#71673: Sep 28th 2019 at 3:26:21 AM

I think that was Oda lying because Gear 4th hadn't been revealed at that point (but was close enough that he almost certainly had thought of it), and the lack of Gear 4th is kind of a big plothole in Film Z.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#71674: Sep 28th 2019 at 3:36:32 AM

Plus the extremely tight plotting of the post time-skip arcs makes Z's placement tenuous due to the Straw Hats being separated constantly.

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WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#71675: Sep 28th 2019 at 3:39:27 AM

It's probably more that the crew has been wrapped up in a single plotline that started with Law's alliance back in Punk Hazard with no time to spare in extra quests, so Film Z would need to happen before that. However, we also know they went to Punk Hazard immediately after reaching the New World, so...it just can't work.

Whereas with Strong World you can place it between Thriller Bark and Sabaody fairly naturally as long as you ignore some small inconsistencies like Zoro's injuries.


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