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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#71476: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:38:24 AM

Really? Is that it?

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#71477: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:40:35 AM

Yes that’s why, it’s a cultural thing celebrating a beloved hero.

Apparently all of Wano cried out in anguish when it was stolen all those years ago.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:40:58 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71478: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:48:19 AM

[up][up] You ask that like it doesn't make perfect sense to treasure a known important possession of a national hero.

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#71479: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:56:30 AM

I was thinking it was something more than just that. Obviously it's important to them.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#71480: Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:11:18 AM

Ae also find out why Ryuma's corpse was still pretty fresh when Moria stole it.

[up] Well the sword does establish that sword users can permanently blacken their blades with haki.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Aug 23rd 2019 at 9:12:10 AM

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#71481: Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:14:32 AM

Wait that's why its solid black?

Damn that's a cool detail.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:14:47 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71482: Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:15:06 AM

[up][up]I have considered that point about Ryuma's corpse having been in the snow lands.

It occurred to me just now that, in regards to Shusui's importance to Wano, that the sword is basically the Wano equivalent of Excalibur.

It also occurs to me why present day Wano, ruled by Kaido, would be so worked up over it: it's the personal weapon of a dragon slayer.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:16:09 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#71483: Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:24:00 AM

Except Enma is apparently a greater sword since it scarred Kaido.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71484: Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:37:26 AM

It's the history, not the ability, that makes the difference here.

Though on that note I wonder if Enma is going to need to be "re-blacked", for lack of a better word. Or if it was every permanently haki'd in the first place.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:40:29 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#71485: Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:55:29 AM

So it's valued more for it's history than it's ability.

It's a good sword, but also a national treasure. No wonder they want it back.

Also, Enmai may not technically be better (maybe Shusui could have also cut Kaido) so much as lacking the history despite being the sword of the later Emperor, so there's less of a hang up over it.

One Strip! One Strip!
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#71486: Aug 23rd 2019 at 6:59:04 AM

[up][up][up][up] Or, considering this is Japan, basically just Kusanagi.

Edited by GoldenKaos on Aug 23rd 2019 at 2:59:57 PM

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71487: Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:00:38 AM

I did say equivalent, so either works, presumably.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#71488: Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:25:31 AM

[up][up]We actually already "sort of" have Kusanagi in the manga already: Kizaru's Amanomurakumo attack uses one of the older names of the Kusanagi sword.

It's not the same as having the actual sword, but it is a reference nonetheless.

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#71489: Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:45:15 AM

Yeah, I knew we already had a reference. Several of Kizaru's moves are Japan Imperial Regalia references. But it's just the name of a beam sword. Shusui would be the One Piece universe's Kusanagi expy.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#71490: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:07:27 PM

Cause pre-timeskip no-one in the crew had armament or observation and they fought plenty of haki-less enemies without her standing out much. If she had Halo she'd probably just stay in relatively the same position she was pre-timeskip.

That's true, while Robin with Haki would be dope as shit that alone wouldn't solve the underlying problem. The issue isn't "Robin isn't strong enough in fights" the issue is "Robin doesn't get fights".

jun_kagami from Indonesia Since: Oct, 2018
#71491: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:09:09 PM

The hype for One Piece: Stampede seems pretty big. Review seems positive and box office-wise, it's the fastest Toei-distributed film to reach ¥3 billion milestone since 2000. Can't wait for the general release here in September

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#71492: Aug 24th 2019 at 12:19:00 AM

Finally got around to watching Film Gold, it was pretty fun.

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71493: Aug 25th 2019 at 9:28:58 AM

So Zoro is gonna get Enma, but what about that other sword Luffy had? What even happened to that?

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#71494: Aug 25th 2019 at 9:43:45 AM

I think he lost it in the fight with Kaido.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71495: Aug 25th 2019 at 9:47:39 AM

If so, I now wonder if we'll actually see the Kitetsu curse come to light. That or maybe see Zoro deliberately choose getting a second Kitetsu over Enma.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 25th 2019 at 10:47:52 AM

Zistal Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#71496: Aug 29th 2019 at 12:53:29 PM

Spoilers are out. Kaidou and Big Mom alliance; they've decided they can settle their fight after conquering the world. Looks like it's about time for the great cleansing that the Five Elders mentioned...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#71497: Aug 29th 2019 at 1:11:08 PM

....so....everyone is essentially fucked then?

One Strip! One Strip!
Zistal Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#71498: Aug 29th 2019 at 1:58:02 PM

Well from what I recall Act 3 in a kabuki play is usually when there's drama or tragedy.

Other info: Apoo was in league with Kaidou before he pretended to ally with Kid and Hawkins. It was pretty much a set up, and Hawkins submitted when his cards showed 0% survival rates for fighting or fleeing. Hawkins reveals this after getting his ass kicked by Law, who was released from his cell as part of a conspiracy by a cut off shadowed figure. Comparisons of the cape and shoes make it almost certain that it's X Drake, although it's unconfirmed. The "Numbers", gigantic silhouettes with horns, fangs, and some wielding clubs gather on Onigashima for the party as nearby children hide in fear of being eaten. Zoro accepts Hiyori's proposal, and it's revealed it wasn't Oden's only sword. Enma was passed to Hiyori, while Ame no Habakiri was passed to Momonosuke. (Guess this means Orochi took credit for Oden's sword style, too)

Edited by Zistal on Aug 29th 2019 at 5:10:27 AM

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#71499: Aug 29th 2019 at 7:55:11 PM

[up]Fitting that there's a blade called Ame-no-Habakiri wielded by someone who hates a person called Orochi. Readers of Naruto might be familiar with one of its other names: Totsuka-no-Tsurugi.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Aug 29th 2019 at 7:55:48 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#71500: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:40:04 PM

Chapter Out.

Huh short chapter.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 29th 2019 at 10:44:30 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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