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adoltin Since: Jul, 2009
#626: Feb 15th 2010 at 11:13:38 AM

Granted if Luffy hadn't showed up with Crocodile, Junbei, and the okama queen dude (sorry I can't spell his/her name) the marines probably would've faired better but still.

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#627: Feb 15th 2010 at 11:29:34 AM

That's part of what I meant with "variables" - particularly, the one that collectively includes all unknowable factors.

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Joshua Since: Aug, 2013
#628: Feb 15th 2010 at 11:39:07 AM

Going by how Aokiji gave Jozu the smackdown, I'm wondering if WB himself (and maybe Marco) is the only one in his crew who's on the same level as the Admirals.

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#629: Feb 15th 2010 at 11:52:24 AM

Need I remind you that Jose was unharmed by Admiral Kizaru's light beams? It's all about how the Devil Fruit powers match up; the battle between Mr. 3 and Magellan near the end of the Impel Down escape arc is a prime example.

And since his power is to become literally Made of Diamond, I'd suspect that Akainu's magma-based Logia fruit would be harmless against him.  For those who still don't get why...

edited 15th Feb '10 11:57:41 AM by MarqFJA

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Joshua Since: Aug, 2013
#630: Feb 15th 2010 at 12:12:54 PM

Eh, seems more like Aokiji's overall powers put him above Jozu to me.

edited 15th Feb '10 12:13:22 PM by Joshua

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#631: Feb 15th 2010 at 12:15:20 PM

But if he can't harm Jozu, what can he do?

edited 15th Feb '10 12:15:30 PM by Enlong

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silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#633: Feb 15th 2010 at 12:30:23 PM

Aokiji did freeze Jozu, remember? Akainu, on the other hand, is useless against him.

I'm a bit unclear on how Kizaru's powers work. He can turn into light, but he never seems to use the abilities that moving at the speed of light would imply. Maybe there's a limit to how far he can travel at once as a beam of light?

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TheEvilDr.Bolty The Evil Dr Bolty Since: May, 2009
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#634: Feb 15th 2010 at 12:39:56 PM

Well, Kizaru needed to do reflect himself off surfaces to travel a few times in Saobody...maybe he can only move at lightspeed in a straight line otherwise

omamus Since: Oct, 2009
#635: Feb 15th 2010 at 5:27:24 PM

Alleged Ch.575 Spoilers: Quote: 189:見習い 02/15(月) 13:07 575話 言葉なき怒り ルフィーは放心状態、そこに赤犬が攻撃、マルコが盾になる。 それを見ていた白髭が無言のまま赤犬に殴りかかる。 赤犬も応戦するが二発でやられる。二発目のパンチは赤犬ごと海軍本部まで大ダメージ。 そして今まで一部始終を見ていた?3人の伝説の囚人+一人+シリュウを連れて、黒髭海賊団登場 。 黒髭「死に目に会えそうで良かったぜ親父」終

(i/N 02 B,ID:RR F6r Gh LO)

Chapter 575: Anger without words

Luffy is at a loss, Akainu takes the chance to attack him, but Marco blocks him.

Whitebeard, who was observing the situation, attacks him without saying a word.

Akainu fights back, but is taken down with two attacks. The second punch sends damage to the entire HQ, and not just Akainu.

Blackbeard pirates, who appears to have been observing the whole deal, appears with three legendary prisoners + Shiryu + another character.

Blackbeard: I'm glad I made it in time to see your death, pops.

oh shit!

edited 15th Feb '10 5:45:08 PM by omamus

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#636: Feb 15th 2010 at 5:32:43 PM

Sounds epic.

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omamus Since: Oct, 2009
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#638: Feb 15th 2010 at 5:35:47 PM

What?! Fuck.

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#639: Feb 15th 2010 at 5:39:01 PM

Spoiler tag that. For those of us who don't like knowing what's going to happen before the chapter comes out.

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#640: Feb 15th 2010 at 6:02:04 PM

Am the only one who's getting that "if Kubo did this it would be trolling", vibe from these spoilers?

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#641: Feb 15th 2010 at 6:03:22 PM

I would hope so.

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#642: Feb 15th 2010 at 6:11:33 PM

See, that's the advantage of writing a World of Ham.

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adoltin Since: Jul, 2009
#643: Feb 15th 2010 at 7:38:25 PM

what happened to no posting anything about a chapter until it's actually out?

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#644: Feb 15th 2010 at 7:39:47 PM

some people only seem to have short term memory. it's a damn shame.

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adoltin Since: Jul, 2009
#645: Feb 15th 2010 at 7:41:48 PM

also where are the revolutionaries? you'd think they would take an interest in something potentially crippling to the WG

Registered Radioactive green from under a space rock Since: Jun, 2009
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#646: Feb 15th 2010 at 8:02:59 PM

Half-way across the world, content with letting two of the world's major power blocs beat the crap out of each other?

While it's certain that the Revolutionaries are all for the World Government and their military being taken down one or several notches, I was always had the understanding that they were against everyone they deemed to be responsible for protecting what they see as a stagnant and unfulfilling world, and that includes Whitebeard. If they didn't, then why wouldn't they have formed an alliance with him or Shanks beforehand?

This clearly didn't quite work to Dragon's personal advantage, of course. But then again, it's not like he was following Luffy around the Grand Line, playing mysterious guardian the whole time.

Edit: wild mass guess What I wanna' know is, who opened the gate, to let Luffy and co. in? And why haven't they revealed themselves yet?

edited 15th Feb '10 8:10:56 PM by Registered

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#647: Feb 15th 2010 at 8:20:43 PM

We don't really know anything about Dragon's motivation. He could well have formed an alliance with some for the high-end pirates, and we just don't know about it. We do know that he didn't have any problem with Luffy becoming a pirate, so he can't be against pirates in general.

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#648: Feb 15th 2010 at 8:32:46 PM

Didn't they get in because Whitebeard caused a massive wave which lifted their ship above the gate? Which Aokiji froze and the wave eventually crumbled with them dropping over the gate?

And I think the gate-opening your referring to is Bon-chan letting them out of Impel Down.

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Registered Radioactive green from under a space rock Since: Jun, 2009
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#649: Feb 15th 2010 at 8:57:54 PM

No, it's not.

It's true that Luffy's gang reached Marineford itself as you said, but still, someone opened Marineford's gate.

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#650: Feb 15th 2010 at 8:59:49 PM

Ah, nevermind.

Edit: Oh man, I was reading the One Piece WMG page and I saw this:

Luffy's not socially naive enough like Goku to accidentally agree to marry Boa.

I lol'd  *

edited 15th Feb '10 9:41:04 PM by Beta Ray

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