I'd point out theres no consensus on changing Bunny-Ears Lawyer (I like that image).
Yeah, well, the mere fact that the images are still in place means they are bad examples of what you're talking about. If the Image Pickin' board had decided against them, they'd be gone.
And well… first, it's untrue that JAFAAC is the only policy we have. This thread
basically goes over all the little subtlties of the forum, and for the most part, the people who are attacking the image are people who have been hanging around the forum for months, meaning they get a pretty good idea of what works and what doesn't. It's true that sometimes the discussion really doesn't go anywhere, but other times, they find an image quicky, and put it up, all with minimal fuss.
As for the tendency to attack whatever's on the page to begin with… well, that's a selection bias at work. If a thread exists in there, it's almost always because somebody who's familiar with the forum doesn't like it, and it just so happens that the consensus rarely runs against the OP on that particular matter.
edited 20th Nov '10 5:59:34 PM by Gilphon
I would not say we are that harsh. Having hung in that forum since it's inception (and in the thread that eventually became the forum before that) we very rarely end up leaving a page blank. The rare few times where a page is left blank is when we absolutely cannot find an image that in any way represent the trope in any degree. This tends to happen generally for sound or music tropes (as images can't really carry that medium), plot related tropes too complex for one or two panels to capture while remaining clear (Keystone Army is the only example I can think of where this is happened), and lastly some tropes about entirely immaterial concepts or format-related concepts that simply cannot be put in a picture (Pilot for example).
Now you might say some tropers on the board are very selective on what they consider good, but heh, thats why we have crowners. Don't hesitate coz one or two people dont like the picture.
edited 21st Nov '10 1:57:11 AM by Ghilz
I'll say this - while I generally agree that culling demotivators was a good idea, the Character Alignment pages are the one instance where they seemed to be perfectly fitting. Other than that, I don't really have an issue with the trends of that forum.
But remember, the Demotivator Cull isn't actually about the content or the fact that they're demotivators. It's an aesthetic thing, because the images don't look good in our format, and the text often becomes hard to read at 330 pixels.
It would be perfectly OK to take the central image from a demotivator and make its text the image caption.
Jet-a-Reeno!"It would be perfectly OK to take the central image from a demotivator and make its text the image caption."
Which is what I did for the picture on Overused Copycat Character (although the picture was still changed to fit the trope).
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.Wait a minute, there was a unified movement to purge the demotivators? But the one on My Greatest Failure was damn funny. :( Dunno if the "cut the image out, replace caption with markup is as nice.
edited 21st Nov '10 12:59:59 PM by Elle
^ That's a dead question. There's nothing that using the demotivator format adds to the image/caption combination except wasted space on either side of the actual image, an often unreadably small gag on the demotivator itself, and the fact that it uses the demotivator meme.
edited 23rd Nov '10 10:55:45 AM by Madrugada
FWIW, I've never seen the demotivator version of that image, but it's hilarious. I think it's even better in our image-and-caption format. Looks like a picture from a documentary or something.
Jet-a-Reeno!I wholeheartedly agree with the opener. I pretty much stepped out discussing in that forum because these mentalities were driving me crazy. I remember that Belligerent Sexual Tension discussion, there was actually someone proposing to let the page pictureless since we could cover every single nuance of the trope in an image.
The double pic trend is kinda irritating as well. I think it is fine here and there, but it seems it have become the solution for everything. Since people developed an allergy for captions they are relying in multiple images to provide context and explanations, which is not all that better. I think the My Greatest Failure image is a good example in how the image can work with a caption to explain the trope.
About the demotivator, I don't like them and think the purge is a good think. They are really useless since the wiki has it own caption. Still, turning them down just because is also not a good idea. I remember having a fight with Fast Eddie because I think not having one in the Fauxtivational Poster is just dumb (the current image is needlessly Anvilicious and do not really illustrate the trope).
edited 24th Nov '10 12:02:44 AM by Heatth

Is it just me, or the Image Picking forum is extremely... well, picky, nowadays?
And I don't just mean maximalist, as in "working hard until they find an even better picture" but they would rather leave a page blank than to keep an image that can't demonstrate every nuance of the trope when viewed captionless, outside of the page's context?
Some recent examples:
It might be because we only have a single policy page for images, and that is JAFAAC. So any random troper could throw up a link to that page, and anyone who wants to proptect it would have to start explaining great lengths why it isn't that bad, so they would automatically start with a handicap.