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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#72676: Jun 23rd 2018 at 10:30:08 PM

[up]And then they wondered why no one wanted to make a Korra toyline.

drac0blade Since: Feb, 2015
#72677: Jun 23rd 2018 at 10:53:00 PM

[up] ...but seeing how the Avatar toyline never went past season one and didn't include any of the girls, they didn't wonder for very long.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#72678: Jun 24th 2018 at 3:09:21 AM

What I meant was that Aang could create a sword slash out of thin air, at a distance, without any need for physical objects.

Optimism is a duty.
deuteragonist Since: Dec, 2013
#72679: Jun 24th 2018 at 3:14:00 AM

*sighs* I am forever sad that there will never be Korra, Bolin, or Avatar Wan action figures.

At least I still have my Aang action figure from when I eight years old, though.waii

edited 24th Jun '18 3:14:17 AM by deuteragonist

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#72680: Jun 24th 2018 at 3:14:54 AM

Now I want one too. grin

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drac0blade Since: Feb, 2015
#72681: Jun 24th 2018 at 9:19:24 PM

[up][up] Well, maybe he can, but not easily. I can think of one time he cut something with wind — against the buzzard wasp in the desert — but that was a powerful move that took some effort. Every other time he wants to cut something, he just uses waterbending.

Apparently, you can cut things with airbending, but not as easily or as effectively as other types of bending. Which does make sense, since airbending is cannonally the most passive type, and Razor Wind isn't actually a thing in real life.

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#72682: Jun 24th 2018 at 10:02:12 PM

One would think that, like flight, wind swords are an extremely high-level airbending technique.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#72683: Jun 25th 2018 at 5:38:25 AM

That trope actually has a real life section with several examples of high pressure air cutting things.

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drac0blade Since: Feb, 2015
#72684: Jun 25th 2018 at 9:42:39 PM

So it does. Allow me to rephrase, then; Razor Wind is a thing that rarely happens under very specific, extreme circumstances. Certainly not the way it's used in fiction, where a simple kick makes a blade of wind. High pressure water, on the other hand, has been used to cut things for years.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#72685: Jul 11th 2018 at 3:25:50 PM

Hey, I noticed this on the trivia page:

  • Asami was not going to last past Book 1; she was supposed to be join the United Forces. This is why she does not appear on any promotional material or even the official Nick website. Mike and Bryan also joked about her becoming romantically involved with Iroh II.
Is there a source for this? I mean specifically that the writers initially planned to not have Asami appear in Book Two, beyond just the already documented scrapped "Equalist spy" plot line. My understanding was that plans for anything beyond book one weren't nearly this concrete.

Edited by TheMountainKing on Jul 11th 2018 at 6:25:34 AM

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#72686: Jul 11th 2018 at 3:33:27 PM

I have literally never heard that.

Oh really when?
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#72687: Jul 11th 2018 at 4:12:57 PM

I remember hearing about how the show wasn't supposed to go past Book 1 from this thread, but nothing about Asami specifically.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#72688: Jul 11th 2018 at 4:18:09 PM

I’d say contact whoever added it and ask where they heard it.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#72689: Jul 11th 2018 at 4:53:08 PM

[up][up] It wasn't expected to go past book 1, and Bryke clearly didn't plan for it enough, but it's not like the studio forced them to extend it. All we know about Asami was that she was supposed to be revealed as an Equalist spy halfway through book 1. They scrapped that pretty early on, but they kept some design elements. In particular, she looks like a classic example of Evil Is Sexy despite not being evil.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#72690: Jul 11th 2018 at 9:50:49 PM

I sent a message, but the person who wrote it hasn't done anything for over a year and a half, so I don't think I'll get an answer. Being an unsourced claim that no one else seems to have heard either, I feel safe deleting it.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#72691: Jul 11th 2018 at 9:56:31 PM

Giving it another look, a lot of the What Could Have Been entries seem dubious. The only one I know for a fact is true is the aforementioned "Equalist Asami", because it was in Bryan's "Korrasami is Canon" post, but some of the others seem odd (Bolin was going to have a romance with Zhu Li?).

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#72692: Jul 12th 2018 at 3:48:55 AM

Is it possible some of those come from the library editions of the comics? Those have a lot of side notes about the show.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#72693: Jul 12th 2018 at 6:44:17 AM

It'd either be that, or random in-persona Q&As at Cons or something...

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#72694: Jul 12th 2018 at 7:42:04 AM

Well, these are pretty much unverifiable unless there's a transcript or video, so in that case its best to cut them.

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TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#72695: Jul 12th 2018 at 8:07:14 AM

The one thing it might be is the art books, none of which I own. If anyone has read them, a look at these entries would be appreciated.

drac0blade Since: Feb, 2015
#72696: Jul 15th 2018 at 7:25:07 PM

One thing I like about the Avatar-verse? Angry spirits non-withstanding, there's no "magic vs. science" dichotomy you see in other fantasy works like this.

Avatar was chock-full of machines and vehicles that could only be operated by people possessing mystic arts. And every time they found new forms and applications to their art, like metalbending, it ultimately lead to new technologies.

And while Korra did have mecha-tanks, mecha-suits and shock gloves to "even the playing field" between benders and non-benders, it also had lightningbenders providing power to generators, specially designed suits for metal and airbenders, and a giant freakin' robot piloted by metalbending. Even opening up the spirit world, the definition of mysticism, only created new technologies, albeit very dangerous ones.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#72697: Jul 15th 2018 at 11:09:39 PM

Well there was a bit of that in the first series with Sokka being dismissive of bending in the first episode. Aang's dislike of non-airbender gliders had shades of this as well.

drac0blade Since: Feb, 2015
#72698: Jul 16th 2018 at 12:49:07 AM

Yeah, but I was thinking more, "the achievements of magic can't be done with science, and vice versa," like they're diametrically opposed. Here, new mystic arts only leads to newer technologies.

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#72699: Jul 23rd 2018 at 5:37:15 PM

Hey everyone, I brought up in the Violations of the Spoiler Policy thread that I don't think the fact that Korra and Asami become the Official Couple should be spoiler-tagged, due to how:

1) It's not really a spoiler in my opinion, just a character trait that doesn't affect the plot significantly.
2) It's openly accepted as fact in Turf Wars.
3) Other couples in the Avatar-verse (Like Aang and Katara, or even Korra and Mako) are not spoiler-tagged.
And 4) it's nearly universally known, anyway.

What are your thoughts?

By the way, the Avatar Wiki says that the DVD Commentary for "Endgame" is where "Asami was originally going to join the United Forces" comes from. It doesn't say anything about Asami not being featured past Book One, though.

Edited by Primis on Jul 23rd 2018 at 5:41:38 AM

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#72700: Jul 23rd 2018 at 5:52:22 PM

Well:

  • 1) It doesn't necessarily affect the plot but it does involve the main protagonist's eventual, supposed romantic arc. It shook me because I didn't think Nick would actually allow a same-sex relationship in a cartoon. This is my reaction it - now think about the people who were actively shipping and arguing about ships.
  • 2) I don't really know what Turf Wars has to do with it - I'm a fan of the show and I've never read it, and the comics aren't exactly mainstream. I'd almost forgotten they existed.
  • 3) I think TLA is so old at this point it's kind of whatever, but it probably should be spoiler-tagged. Korra and Mako... I'll admit the "rules" are sketchy here.
  • 4) I don't think that's a great reason. What are we basing "is universally known" on? A couple of forums with at least 20-30 people talking about it? This fanbase is vastly larger than that.

I guess it's fairer for me to say I'm not actually going to stop you.

Edited by Soble on Jul 23rd 2018 at 5:52:47 AM

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