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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#66026: Mar 21st 2025 at 7:10:06 AM

Marie is fine. They could have done worse with writing her. That being said, her integration into the story doesn't feel very organic and her bonus dungeon sucks ass. It's this weird combination of really easy, really annoying and extremely unrewarding.

I would expect them to do little but QOL changes, which Golden doesn't really need, and maybe some gameplaying tuning around things like social links. Oh and I expect them to remove Golden's customized difficulty settings, which would be unfortunate.

Edited by Arha on Mar 21st 2025 at 9:12:27 AM

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#66027: Mar 21st 2025 at 8:41:33 AM

I would like to see Bike follow ups replaced, they are way too damn random. Make em like Theurgy but summon someone off field.

Making Marie more organically involved in the game would be cool. Like have her appear in some Link events for other characters.

Better leveling system than Golden's broken leveling that removed the scaling XP that's present in all the other Persona games P3, P 3 P, P 3 R, P4, P5, P5 Royal... Golden is the only one that's missing it and because of it you end up level 99 by Naoto's dungeon.

Fix the broken voice acting in dungeons, like finding floors is completely silent in the English version of golden.

Fix up P4's more simplistic combat, bring in Light and Dark as an actual element like 5 and Reload, hell weapon types returning would be cool as it was still in P4's code just they made it so all weapons and skills did slash damage and changed the labels.

Edited by Memers on Mar 21st 2025 at 8:42:01 AM

DanteVin The Time Has Come from Somewhere Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Singularity
#66028: Mar 21st 2025 at 8:49:56 AM

I wonder if they're going to change the English VAs again like what happened to P3R... Because I remember Kanji already having two English voice actors between the original game, the anime adaptation, and the subsequent spin-offs.

With Great Power, Comes Great Motivation
taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#66029: Mar 21st 2025 at 9:12:54 AM

That would be the case — going from Troy Baker to Matt Mercer, the latter already voicing Yusuke in P5 so theoretically he could come back — Mercer still does a lot of work for PCB Productions after all.

Changing up the voice cast would be based on the parent company's demand.

Edited by taotruths on Mar 21st 2025 at 9:13:37 AM

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#66030: Mar 21st 2025 at 12:21:07 PM

Memers: Hm? You were able to lower your exp gain in Golden. I think the last time I played P4 I would typically be ten levels below where you were supposed to be for every boss because I felt the game was way too easy otherwise, even on the hardest difficulty.

Edited by Arha on Mar 21st 2025 at 2:21:28 PM

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#66031: Mar 21st 2025 at 12:49:00 PM

With the persona games aside from P 4 G, EXP scaled. Like if you fought a level 10 shadow at level 10 you would gain say 100 xp, if you were level 9 you would gain 140 xp, level 8 180xp. And going with that if you were level 11 you would only gain 70xp. All the way till you get 1-2 XP per kill. The amount per level scaled up a bit per level but not a lot as the gains were always counterbalanced.

In Persona 4 Golden, XP gains are flat. That level 10 mob would always give 100 xp, the XP per level was not adjusted to account for this. Just by fighting everything in front of you in like Yukiko's Castle you would end up double the level of if you did the same in P4 vanilla.

Difficulty options allowing adjustment of XP gains are probably the reason for the removal... it does not make it remotely good though.

Edited by Memers on Mar 21st 2025 at 12:49:19 PM

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#66032: Mar 21st 2025 at 1:27:56 PM

I honestly don't remember that at all. I remember nerfing exp gain during the story and being very underleveled as a result and then when it came time to fight Margaret I just bumped exp up massively to reduce grinding.

terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object
#66033: Mar 21st 2025 at 10:45:58 PM

Yeah I did that too. Mainly bumping the rewards up as far as gold shadows are concerned.

Burning love!
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#66034: Mar 23rd 2025 at 9:34:08 AM

So, if the Persona 4 remake does have the English cast recast, do you think this could be the ideal ones?

Narukami: John Patneaude

Yosuke: Clifford Chapin

Chie Satonaka: Mia Paige

Yukiko: Amber May

Tatsumi: J. Michael Tatum

Rise: Abby Trott

Teddie: Kevin Andrew Rivera

Naoto: Kayleigh Mc Kee

Margaret: Anne Yatco

Marie: Madeline Dorroh

Adachi: Stephen Fu

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#66035: Mar 24th 2025 at 4:27:22 PM

This might be a case of Unequal Rites, but I have to wonder if one of the characters from Persona got access to the Demon Fusion Program from a parallel universe, could they use it to build their own Persona Fusion Program?

Assuming they could even understand it, since the Schwarzwelt Investigation Team couldn't in their own universe.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#66036: Mar 24th 2025 at 4:30:14 PM

>persona fusion program

alexa what is a velvet room

Bewitching Eyes
FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#66037: Mar 24th 2025 at 4:31:54 PM

Welcome to the Scarlet Room

'Mass strip club vibes ensue'

Granted my favorite take on the Fusion room will always be Victor in the basement from Raido vs The Soulless Army

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Mar 24th 2025 at 4:32:52 AM

This is an outrage against Luminara!
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#66038: Mar 24th 2025 at 5:03:13 PM

[up][up] Good point, Igor will probably be upset if you try to outsource his job.

Edited by Nofix on Mar 24th 2025 at 5:04:09 AM

CryoJNik He who holds fandoms in contempt from At the edge of tomorrow Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
He who holds fandoms in contempt
#66039: Mar 25th 2025 at 11:38:45 AM

I'm not looking forward to all the Kanji and Naoto discourse that will inevitably pop up again. The amount of half baked takes people have spat out based on one moment for both of my favorite goobers is both sad and eyerollingly annoying.

If you can't handle being outed by a signature, that's on you.
bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#66040: Mar 30th 2025 at 1:16:45 AM

By this point, anyone who unironically repeats that nonsense should face the Myriad Truths.

Also the remake isn't real anyway.

2025: the year it all ends?
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#66041: Mar 30th 2025 at 3:13:34 AM

Many said that about 3 and look how that turned out.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#66042: Mar 30th 2025 at 3:32:56 AM

Out of everything, I hope a P4 remake does its style and feeling better than P3's did its style.

Like especially the P3 Answer's opening completely lacked any feeling to anything.

chino514 (Apprentice)
#66043: Mar 30th 2025 at 9:22:43 AM

My only thought on a P3 remake before Reload got announced was to have a version we can consider to be the "definitive version" of Persona 3.

Edited by chino514 on Mar 30th 2025 at 12:23:03 PM

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#66044: Mar 30th 2025 at 10:04:14 AM

I couldn't get into Reload for some reason. I think I've just played P3 too much and the appeal for me was mainly story rather than gameplay, unlike the later games.

I dunno if I'd buy P4 again when keeping that in mind. Like I still have Golden on the Vita.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#66045: Mar 31st 2025 at 4:34:50 PM

Phantom X is getting a new opening.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#66046: Mar 31st 2025 at 4:53:39 PM

Showing off the next two party members. Which seems to be how they’ll unveil new members.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Mar 31st 2025 at 4:53:57 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#66047: Apr 10th 2025 at 1:50:19 PM

Checkin out the new stuff from 5X, it's impressive how consistently scummy the Palace rulers are.

Bewitching Eyes
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#66048: Apr 12th 2025 at 11:08:24 AM

So I guess to complement the fact that Closer is basically just "Ryuji but girl", the new party member in X is "Ann but boy"

Bewitching Eyes
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#66049: Apr 15th 2025 at 8:47:09 AM

I'm still a bit iffy on a bunch of stuff in X, but the Palace themes are really fuckin good

Bewitching Eyes
taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#66050: Apr 15th 2025 at 10:18:38 AM

[up][up]I thought he was our Goro Akechi, but now that you say that out loud, that makes a fair bit of sense


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