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Mullon Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Aug 22nd 2022 at 6:40:25 PM

I keep going back and forth on whether I should quit playing Q2.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
asterism Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Sep 16th 2022 at 9:19:00 AM

Persona 5 Royal is being ported to the Switch

Release date is October 21st

In the Balance
Mullon Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Sep 18th 2022 at 4:41:35 PM

I did it! I finally did it I beat Persona Q2! That was the worst Persona game ever, it was worse than Eternal Punishment. It just went on and on and even on the easiest difficulty it was such a horrible grind and all the bosses were damage sponges and the crossover was totally wasted and it was so boring!

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
MisterTambourineMan The Tender of Blooms from Under a tree Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
The Tender of Blooms
Sep 18th 2022 at 5:26:48 PM

I still have a copy of Q2 that I need to play and that... did not sound like an endorsement.

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.
EpicBleye tipsy bunny from underneath a pile of blankies with hot cocoa Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
tipsy bunny
Sep 18th 2022 at 5:58:15 PM

its not really any worse than Q1. probably a bit better, honestly.

unfortunately with both of those games, if you're trying to play them like a Persona game it becomes a huge slog and very difficult.

the Q games have the unfortunate issue of being incredibly easy Etrian Odyssey games, and very tedious Persona games.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Cibryll Sjane Gloveblade from Vidolfheim Boutique (she/her) Relationship Status: It's complicated
Sjane Gloveblade
Sep 18th 2022 at 6:05:48 PM

Huh. Now I'm more interested in playing it. smile

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Mullon Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Sep 19th 2022 at 5:34:19 AM

I think I liked Q1 a bit better, because the cast wasn't as bloated, and the main antagonist's plan and motive made sense, and the lack of note comparing didn't feel as silly, and hitting the reset button didn't feel as cruel, and I'm pretty sure I didn't spend over an hour chipping away at the final boss health bar.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
slimcoder Carnage Rules
Carnage Rules
Sep 19th 2022 at 10:09:47 AM

Heh imagine we get a Persona 6 and we get a Q3 with 4 games worth of casts tongue

"You know my name. Now SCREAM it."
Cibryll Sjane Gloveblade from Vidolfheim Boutique (she/her) Relationship Status: It's complicated
Sjane Gloveblade
Sep 19th 2022 at 10:25:46 AM

How about a Q3 or Q4 or Q5 all the Persona characters from 1 to 5 and beyond? :p

Edited by Cibryll on Sep 19th 2022 at 7:25:58 PM

Combining Ice and Light into powerful attacks, this beautiful goddess seeks to bring an end to all life.
darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
Sep 19th 2022 at 2:55:34 PM

2 already had a crossover, it's called Eternal Punishment's last third of the game.

"No will to break."
Sep 21st 2022 at 12:21:01 AM

I still want a Detectives vs Phantom Thieves game. Give an actual detective like Naoto a chance instead of the phony.

EpicBleye tipsy bunny from underneath a pile of blankies with hot cocoa Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
tipsy bunny
Sep 21st 2022 at 7:36:16 AM

to be fair, he DID do his job correctly. if he caught the criminals, he's a good detective, regardless of his method.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Sep 21st 2022 at 7:54:29 AM

Except he broke one of the bigges rules for detective fiction, donít be in on it. Which was broken in multiple ways.

EpicBleye tipsy bunny from underneath a pile of blankies with hot cocoa Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
tipsy bunny
Sep 21st 2022 at 8:03:17 AM

sometimes you gotta break a few rules to catch a criminal

at the end of the day he DID do his job, regardless of the means

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Sep 21st 2022 at 8:34:12 AM

Yes, he did out himself as the mass murderer. And thatís part the problem.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
Sep 21st 2022 at 8:42:22 AM

I get the impression Akechi being a shitty detective despite whatever merits he could have is intentional, given the reveal that he artificially engineered a lot of the mysteries he "solved".

Doesn't necessarily invalidate finding it frustrating how he's written, though.

she/her
EpicBleye tipsy bunny from underneath a pile of blankies with hot cocoa Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
tipsy bunny
Sep 21st 2022 at 8:45:12 AM

regardless of his criminal background, he did do his job. he caught a lot of criminals, even if it meant using supernatural powers.

honestly, it would be irresponsible to not use his powers to catch criminals.

Edited by EpicBleye on Sep 21st 2022 at 11:45:51 AM

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
Sep 21st 2022 at 8:53:20 AM

That's the thing though- he created the criminals he was catching, which may or may not have resulted in the incarceration of a lot of innocent people.

Like I said, he still has some investigative merits- when he's with the Thieves he's pretty sharp about figuring out Nijima's palace- but that's undermined by him only gaining his reputation through staged crimes anyways.

she/her
Sep 21st 2022 at 8:57:35 AM

He didnít catch himself. He essentially caught one of the non-lethal copycats.

You forget the case he and Sae were working on goes well beyond the Phantom Thieves. The Subway incident. Futabaís mom, and the thousands of people that were killed or mindraped came well before the Phantom Thieves and he did them allÖ and made his name by investigating them.

Edited by Memers on Sep 21st 2022 at 8:59:25 AM

EpicBleye tipsy bunny from underneath a pile of blankies with hot cocoa Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
tipsy bunny
Sep 21st 2022 at 9:34:56 AM

obviously Akechi did a lot of bad things, i'm not arguing that. all I'm saying is that he did catch a lot of criminals. regardless of how he found them, he still caught them and earned the title of detective prince.

just because he skipped over himself doesn't mean that he didnt catch all those other criminals in the process

he created the criminals he was catching, which may or may not have resulted in the incarceration of a lot of innocent people.

fair point.

Edited by EpicBleye on Sep 21st 2022 at 12:36:26 PM

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Sep 21st 2022 at 9:41:29 AM

Memers' point is that Akechi is a fraud. Its basically Engineered Heroics.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
EpicBleye tipsy bunny from underneath a pile of blankies with hot cocoa Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
tipsy bunny
Sep 21st 2022 at 9:44:21 AM

is he? he caught criminals and brought them to justice. him using the metaverse doesn't change that he did that.

yes, he committed crimes himself and was a mass murderer. but he still brought other people to justice. which i think rightfully earns him that title. him being a criminal himself doesn't change that

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Sep 21st 2022 at 9:46:27 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/crimes_meme_1.jpg

(Edit: Changed the wording a bit, I think it works better this way)

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Sep 21st 2022 at 12:51:03 PM

Oh God! Natural light!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Relationship Status: I wanna be your sledgehammer
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Sep 21st 2022 at 9:47:41 AM

The anime had him helping Akira to catch an criminal (that he didn't create) at the least.

I remember asking about it because I assume all of Akechi's collars were due to Engineered Heroics, but I recall being told not all of his cases were due to him using his powers to create the crime.

Seems I was told wrong, or maybe I'm misremembering. That anime was a long time ago.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 For I'm the hero true Relationship Status: Barbecuing
For I'm the hero true
Sep 21st 2022 at 9:49:05 AM

As I recall, at least the later crimes were all people he drove insane or at least to crime and since he knew the how and why, he could catch them and build a rep.

Monster Protection Racket basically.

But I do suspect he picked up some legit detective skills working under Sae.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 21st 2022 at 12:49:47 PM

What meaning there is to be found in the petty vicissitudes of your existence must be gleaned by you and you alone.

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