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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#61176: Mar 25th 2021 at 10:08:18 AM

I think he suffers a bit from coming off the heels of very-sensitive-topic of sexual harrasment/rape/driven to suicide of kamoshida, while at the same time his evil isn't the same brand of big and impersonnal evil than the Mafia, Corrupt corporation, politics or GOD has.

I think it might be compounded by the fact he's the only major target who's not treated as redeemable anyway like futaba or sae that the game actually goes out of it's way to humanize back in yusuke's confident (in a way he feels the most like a Monarch of P 5 S before it's time), and that he was already good enough at playing the affability facade he's the only one where the thieves actually buy it for a good minute.

Edited by Yumil on Mar 25th 2021 at 6:10:31 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#61177: Mar 25th 2021 at 10:49:08 AM

Yusuke in general just left such a bad taste in my mouth. Yeah he can't be epected to just completely betray his mentor without remorse, but it's a little more humanizing than I'd like. He himself tries to straight up blackmail Ann into doing something she's uncomfortable with, right after said sexually charged arc. The anime version of that arc is instantly superior in my mind just for cutting that shit.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#61178: Mar 25th 2021 at 10:54:10 AM

That and it generally does not mesh well with his later characterization as a pretty much asexual dude who just wants to draw.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#61179: Mar 25th 2021 at 10:56:35 AM

The whole arc was tonedeaf on that, you can easily tell it was done by a different writer. Joker and Ryuji are the ones basically blackmailing Ann to go along with posing nude after what she just went through.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#61180: Mar 25th 2021 at 11:26:58 AM

Yeah, the fact that the game just universally decides in that moment that we're doing this, and it should be funny is beyond jarring. I'd call it easily one of the worst individual moments in the game. Different writer or not, there's quality control standards, and the continuity suffers for it.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61181: Mar 25th 2021 at 11:28:49 AM

How did we shift from talking about Madarame to talking about how much we don't like Yusuke?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#61182: Mar 25th 2021 at 11:34:44 AM

Someone saw an inch and pulled a mile out of it.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#61183: Mar 25th 2021 at 11:40:28 AM

Aside from that moment, Yusuke is a pretty cool guy actually and quite empathetic. So looking back at that moment, it IS really weird.

But the whole moment of Ann showing up with a huge pile of clothes was pretty funny in a cross the line twice sort of way.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2021 at 2:40:55 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61184: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:01:25 PM

I'm of the mind that evil is evil. Doesn't matter that Madarame is not some over the top rapist or gigantic far-reaching corpo.

He's still commiting evil and atrocity, its not a dick-measuring contest of how bad are you.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#61185: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:04:08 PM

So I haven't played any P5 stuff yet and I keep seeing Yusuke and immediately thinking of Yosuke. So that's confusing.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#61186: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:11:50 PM

Yosuke has typical teen issues rife with questionable choices and issues.

Yusuke is a one note Starving Artist who only has lines related to art, food or agreeing the the bad guy is bad and nothing else.

Totally different characters.

Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#61187: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:14:56 PM

[up][up]I remember making a joke about P5 reusing names from previous Persona games, but changing "o" for "u" (Jun Kurosu -> Akira Kurusu, Ryoji -> Ryuji, Yosuke -> Yusuke).

[up]He also banters with Futaba and tries to keep the team on track with Makoto. That's as much character as everyone else got.

Edited by Kara on Mar 26th 2021 at 2:18:05 AM

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#61188: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:17:10 PM

Of which Yusuke is the better one.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#61189: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:20:10 PM

I mean, I’ve liked what I’ve seen of him in the Animation and Strikers so far.

Yes, his character primarily relates to art but that doesn’t mean nothing interesting comes of that.

Also, I just think Matthew Mercer does a good job with him.

(I’ll also note that I’ve come around a bit on Yosuke after playing Golden. Yes, he’s a dick a lot of the time, bordering on a Politically Incorrect Hero, but there are plenty of moments where his positive traits shine through. I particularly like his Social Link.)

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Mar 25th 2021 at 3:23:46 PM

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#61190: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:23:28 PM

It always tickled me that Yusuke is a blue-haired character originally voiced by Tomokazu Sugita and then dubbed by Matthew Mercer, because the first character I knew was voiced by Mercer was also a blue-haired guy originally voiced by Sugita: Chrom from Fire Emblem: Awakening.

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#61191: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:26:32 PM

[up][up] Problem is that most of the spinoff material ignore's Yosuke's social link almost completely.

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Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#61192: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:31:22 PM

[up][up]Damn, that talk about voice actors reminded me of another joke I made when Yusuke's VA was announced. I speculated that he was a Kuzunoha, because all the other Sugita's roles in this franchize are Kuzunohas (Raidou, Raido and Madame Ginko) and Yusuke is associated with foxes [lol]

Edited by Kara on Mar 26th 2021 at 2:32:38 AM

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#61193: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:39:34 PM

Yeah, Yusuke's way better than than yosuke in my book too. His arc in strikers really elevated the otherwise boring jail/monarch and he works really well as the more subdued member who still has interesting things to say. His social link in 5 might also be one of the better party members social link, along with futaba, ryuji and haru.

Edited by Yumil on Mar 25th 2021 at 8:41:02 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#61194: Mar 25th 2021 at 12:45:57 PM

[up][up]Funnily enough, Matthew Mercer also voiced Raidou and Raido, so that's another connection he has with Sugita.

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#61195: Mar 25th 2021 at 1:02:01 PM

Yosuke has the best party member social link between 4 and 5 but otherwise, Yusuke is vastly superior.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#61196: Mar 25th 2021 at 1:54:38 PM

wait why are we comparing yosuke and yusuke

is it because their names are similar

anyway yosuke is best boi and atlus should've let him be gay

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61197: Mar 25th 2021 at 1:55:08 PM

Didn’t Mercer also replace Troy Baker as the VA for Kanji?

[up] Yes it’s cause of their names.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 25th 2021 at 1:55:35 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61198: Mar 25th 2021 at 2:19:57 PM

He did.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Makir Since: Feb, 2017
#61199: Mar 25th 2021 at 2:24:49 PM

I still remember in the pre-release period of Persona 5, where people assumed Yusuke, who appeared in the opening video/trailer, was actually Jun Kurosu from Persona 2.

Good times.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#61200: Mar 25th 2021 at 5:37:24 PM

Wouldn’t that have made him like 40 or something?

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