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Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#60876: Feb 23rd 2021 at 2:47:24 AM

Technically, P1 also happened in P 2 EP timeline.

I do think that Atlus overshoot with Shadow Operatives introduction. They are the kind of group you would expect to deal with later games plots, but they don't. And, I guess, you can headcanon some explanations (severely understuffed, political games, the villain of the week has powers to prevent them from interfering, etc.), but that also makes this supposedly badass organization into a joke. Especially when you have stuff like blatantly supernatural Phantom Thieves operating in Tokyo for a year and becoming international sensation.

Edited by Kara on Feb 23rd 2021 at 7:50:19 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60877: Feb 23rd 2021 at 6:28:13 AM

The idea was necessary because there wasn't a focus on SEES being this inseparable band of buddies like the other two groups were, and it was just 4 members of SEES in the first place because they had the most plausible reason to stick together. That the Shadow Ops because an Elephant in the Room was inevitable really.

Zeldalover Since: Oct, 2020
#60878: Feb 23rd 2021 at 7:16:41 AM

about to head into dungeon 3 of persona 4. Should I replace one of my three party members with Kanji... Also what items should I bring

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#60879: Feb 23rd 2021 at 7:19:45 AM

From what I remember, Kanji is one of the lower tier members

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Zeldalover Since: Oct, 2020
#60880: Feb 23rd 2021 at 7:28:06 AM

Also and this is a minor nitpick but I kinda wish that during sundays/days off you got to do 2 s link events instead of one (or one dungeon crawling session and one s link event)

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60881: Feb 23rd 2021 at 7:56:15 AM

Kanji's actually one of the best in the whole game.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#60882: Feb 23rd 2021 at 8:23:10 AM

Kanji specializes in powerful single target attacks, he's pretty killer against bosses.

Bewitching Eyes
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#60883: Feb 23rd 2021 at 12:21:50 PM

Why is Alice lust-themed? Her whole thing seems closer to envy IMO.

Bewitching Eyes
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60884: Feb 23rd 2021 at 12:28:34 PM

She lusts to be in the place of those who mistreated her.

Envy can play a part, but if her lust for it is stronger than her envy she'd still count as Lust.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#60885: Feb 23rd 2021 at 12:44:00 PM

... that makes absolutely no sense.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#60886: Feb 23rd 2021 at 12:49:47 PM

Makes about as much sense as a mob boss obsessed with money being a representative for Gluttony as opposed to Greed.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#60887: Feb 23rd 2021 at 12:51:52 PM

I think is from the "special" treatment that sin got compared to the other 6. Specifically the trend of Lust being depicted as a way to incite the sin in viewers rather than the character themselves representing it. Alice in this case is a Fashion Designer, which would fit with this idea (IMO, as fashion is usually centered on begin attractive and everything else such as envy, would be secondary side effects of that).

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#60888: Feb 23rd 2021 at 2:02:26 PM

She literally says 'I was jealous of X' in her confession

She fits envy so much better than, for example, Sae does

Bewitching Eyes
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#60889: Feb 23rd 2021 at 2:28:28 PM

She got hooked on the high of getting revenge over everything, which she also admits too. Her lust for that high was consuming her reasoning because she didn't even care if they talked behind her backs anymore, she just wanted to lash out at anyone.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Kakuzan Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to. from Knock knock, open up the door, it's real. Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to.
#60890: Feb 23rd 2021 at 5:27:10 PM

Yeah, lust is often associated with sex but it can be a lot more than that since it can also be an intense obsession, something alluded to in parts of Kamoshida's Palace. Still, from what little I know of Alice, it does seem that envy or maybe even wrath may be more fitting.

Edit: Also, greed and gluttony are very close to each other, but I do think the main distinction to look for would be that gluttony leans more towards mindless hedonism, hoarding, and self indulgence to the point of waste versus greed often having an association of scheming and whatnot.

Edited by Kakuzan on Feb 23rd 2021 at 8:30:45 AM

Don't catch you slippin' now.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#60891: Feb 23rd 2021 at 5:28:03 PM

about to head into dungeon 3 of persona 4. Should I replace one of my three party members with Kanji...

There honestly isnt much room for him in the party, The MC also really fills out the lightning/physical set. Chie and Yukiko's combo attacks are really useful, its hard to set Kanji in the 4th slot over Yousuke's support or the final character which is an all rounder.

Kanji also isnt very good starting out, you don't really have the support to support his massive HP using skills. Chie and Kanji generally are awesome at different break points in their levels with how the skills are learned.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#60892: Feb 23rd 2021 at 6:13:19 PM

Well crap... I can’t find a single copy of strikers in my entire town...

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#60893: Feb 23rd 2021 at 6:17:29 PM

[up][up][up] Makes sense, the Seven Deadly Sins as we know them are rather shallow compared to their actually larger and overlapping spheres of influence.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Feb 23rd 2021 at 6:17:39 AM

MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#60894: Feb 23rd 2021 at 8:19:26 PM

The sin of sloth isn't simply laziness, but a refusal to meet obligations. Meaning that a workaholic who neglects their relationships and their health is being slothful.

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#60895: Feb 24th 2021 at 9:06:46 AM

omg the party's reaction to mariko being the queen of sapporo

'What? A corrupt politician? UNTHINKABLE'

like, c'mon guys

Bewitching Eyes
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#60896: Feb 24th 2021 at 10:29:23 AM

RE: ATLUS maybe/maybe not having dibs on Sophia:

I mean, Sophia did appear in a piece of artwork alongside Kasumi to celebrate how much P5R and P5S sold, so I don't see why she wouldn't be allowed to be in other Persona games.

I could theoretically envision seeing her in a hypothetical Persona 5 Arena game. (Obviously, I have zero clue as to whether that's even being considered, but if it does happen, then Sophia meeting Aegis is a MUST. And since I brought it up, now YOU want a Persona 5 Arena too! Don't deny it!)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 24th 2021 at 11:02:42 AM

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#60897: Feb 24th 2021 at 10:32:50 AM

I would want a Persona 5 Fighter that includes everyone from all the franchise's games. Not just for the Aigis/Sophia interaction, but to see the P2 cast and their personas and bring forth some interesting ideas from EP one being Nyarly as the villain

Plus having a reason to explain why the Shadow Ops sat out both 5 and Strikers and some closure with Elizabeth's plotline would be nice

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Feb 24th 2021 at 10:33:05 AM

Zeldalover Since: Oct, 2020
#60898: Feb 24th 2021 at 11:00:57 AM

[up]I mean theres the chance for dlc (this is a musou game dlc is practically a given) but kasumi and akechi are likely to take precedent. Anyways I just realized that the compendium isnt just the persona version of the pokedex/castlevania bestiary... I feel like a dumbass

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60900: Feb 24th 2021 at 2:04:10 PM

Yowch that’s fucked up man. :/

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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