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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#60526: Jan 9th 2021 at 9:33:46 AM

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HA HA HA!!![lol]

That works on so many levels. I mean, Strega doesn't seem to need Evokers anyway, but that's just an extra bit and it's now my canon.

One Strip! One Strip!
I-M-THE-Jetyl-1 the Original Jetyl Since: Oct, 2019
the Original Jetyl
#60527: Jan 9th 2021 at 5:21:01 PM

the real reason Strega is a threat: They have a REAL GUN!!

Edited by I-M-THE-Jetyl-1 on Jan 9th 2021 at 5:21:13 AM

I forgot my password, and I want my old Forum handle back!!!
MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#60528: Jan 9th 2021 at 5:57:56 PM

It says a lot about the game that Jin has an instant death attack and still isn't considered a threat at all.

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#60529: Jan 9th 2021 at 7:56:56 PM

Instant death stuff rarely hits, anyway.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60530: Jan 9th 2021 at 9:03:24 PM

I dunno, it hit pretty frequently with me when I was playing P 3 P a few months ago.

I mean, the enemies Mudo/Hama hit me very easily. I always missed when I tried it on then, even when they were weak to it.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jan 9th 2021 at 9:04:10 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60531: Jan 9th 2021 at 9:06:09 PM

Huh it is luck-dependent.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#60532: Jan 9th 2021 at 11:24:23 PM

From what I know, 3 and 4 have mudo/hama work about 20% higher odds than usual SMT starting with Nocturne's calculation.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#60533: Jan 11th 2021 at 1:04:07 AM

finished a few more social links!

the old couple had a surprisingly nice ending that caught me of guard. i liked the social link overall, it just wasn't terribly... interesting, i guess. it was a lowkey one, like yuko's. in any case, good social link.

the business man SL was pretty good. my only issue was how short so many of the ranks were. if we could've gotten a bit more meat to the social link and a bit more drama i think it would've been great.

the unusual monk was... eh. it started off really strong, but i feel like the conclusion of the social link goes so, so far off the game's themes and arguably the social link itself. i think it would have been much more satisfying if he gave up on finding his wife and kid and realized that he needs to live with his mistakes and let them live their own, happier lives without him. and have him find a new meaning for his life as the monk he could be.

aaand now i'm officially out of things to do at night. fun.

i do also want to give MAJOR props to 3 for making shinjiro's death feel this impactful. like, it feels like he's missing, people are talking about him, it's.... sad. i absolutely miss him :c

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#60534: Jan 11th 2021 at 7:58:57 AM

One thing 3 did that absolutely beats the later games is making Persona evolution part of the story instead of it being optional.

Bewitching Eyes
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#60535: Jan 11th 2021 at 4:51:05 PM

aaand made it to the top of tartarus!

and now we will discover everything we've been climbing fo-

...there's nothing here... and no one's gonna comment on it???

and aw, Natsuki is leaving :c poor Fuuka


okay, time for the final full moon boss!

took out strega who then killed themselves. they had neat personas, but overall an easy fight. uh, i guess they didnt get their personas naturally? are we ever gonna find out about that??

and oh boy time for the actual shadow, a buff freak on a cross.

except this fight sucks and is horrible oh my god. i'm supposed to get an all out attack on him whenever i clear the statues, except my AI keeps fucking me over because they keep not killing his summon

so the fight is a HORRIBLE slog, and i just lost because i got bad RNG. cool, that's cool. now i have to do EVERYTHING over again

god, this game is NOT getting points for its gameplay. if i ever recommend this game to someone i'll tell them to play on easy because it's just not worth the trouble on normal or hard.

edit: OH MY GOD the exact same thing happened again, i'm so mad

edit edit: STILL on the boss, died AGAIN to getting Akasha Artsed 3 times in a row, AND critted on the third time i hate this game omg. this is honestly worse than the sleeping table

edit edit edit: crit akasha arts AGAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


okay, finally, finally beat the boss. i panicked so hard when i barely survived ANOTHER 3x akasha arts while the boss had like no HP

and hoo boy the cutscenes that followed??? what a TRIP oh my god. this was so worth the pain of the boss.

sushi with friends?? pharos's said goodbye?? dark hour isn't over?? Ikutsuki was a bad guy this WHOLE time and knew the dark hour wouldn't disappear?? The Fall?? poor Aigis!! oh my godddddd so much is happening. at least yukari finally got her dad's message after all. and... chidori is dying.

aaaaaa this game is too much


...a new character, this late in the game?? Ryoji, huh? i know absolutely nothing about him. Aigis doesn't seem to like him though.

Edited by EpicBleye on Jan 11th 2021 at 1:54:02 PM

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#60536: Jan 12th 2021 at 3:20:45 AM

It's why I prefer Portable, for the new Social Links for Femc, letting you control everyone ya know, like every other SMT game, and some of the quality of life changes. I don't believe people that claim the AI isn't so bad, it'll absolutely fuck you over at least a few major times.

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#60537: Jan 12th 2021 at 3:35:05 AM

Honestly I'm kinda amused that Epic Bleye hasn't been spoiled on the crucial plot points this long after the game's release. A lot of them are Late-Arrival Spoiler territory already.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#60538: Jan 12th 2021 at 4:03:32 AM

Same, honestly. 3's memes are drenched in spoilers.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#60539: Jan 12th 2021 at 10:43:56 AM

[up][up][up] Agreed about the AI, but honestly, it's a price worth paying for a first playthrough in my opinion because having cutscenes is... well, honestly adds a lot to the experience.

Like I probably won't do FES for a replay, but I'm really happy it was my first exposure to P3. Really adds to the narrative.

Unrelated note, but I just got 5 Royal. I've been dragging my feet since I have vanilla 5 for the PS 3 and never beat it, but the realization that I can play Royal on my PS Vita is great since I rarely have the opportunity to play on my big screen.

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Risdio51 The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about from that exit they call Paradise Since: Jun, 2019 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about
#60540: Jan 12th 2021 at 12:33:50 PM

YOOOOOO

I can't say goodbye to yesterday…
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60542: Jan 12th 2021 at 1:51:14 PM

Go through the burning museum with no Estoma.

Lovely.

I did that in my first run. It was awful.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#60543: Jan 12th 2021 at 2:59:13 PM

Going through 1 or 2 without Estoma is fucking pain. The encounter rate in those games is consistently insane.

1 especially sucks with starting Personas, given how easy it is to fuse a Persona with Megido, have that character do most damage with said Megido, and just soak up the Exp curve until they can just solo the rest of the game.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#60544: Jan 12th 2021 at 5:11:11 PM

Honestly I'm kinda amused that Epic Bleye hasn't been spoiled on the crucial plot points this long after the game's release. A lot of them are Late-Arrival Spoiler territory already.

I actually have a friend who is playing through Golden on PC right now and he is trying to avoid spoilers. So, some people are intentionally avoiding spoilers and/or they simply never had any reason to search for stuff related to these games until they just started playing it.

Then you have me who doesn't really care about plot spoilers in any game because I generally play games for their gameplay first and foremost, even in an RPG.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#60545: Jan 12th 2021 at 5:33:13 PM

It does depend

Sometimes for works with major spoilers, you may have already spoiled yourself out of curiosity on what the hell it’s all about; then start experiencing it proper and going through the emotional beats that a spoiler summary obviously won’t do

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#60546: Jan 12th 2021 at 5:37:50 PM

[up]That is also true.

Reading that something happens and experiencing that thing are two separate things. Mostly because a summary is just words, you'll be getting anything with visual/audio, and no amount of reading can prepare you for feels as you can still get emotionally attached to fictional characters.

Edited by powerpuffbats on Jan 12th 2021 at 7:38:38 AM

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#60547: Jan 12th 2021 at 6:44:52 PM

i've neen spoiled on MOST major character deaths- and clearly not all of them because some of them caught me off guard. nor did i know when any of them happened.

but virtually everything about the plot i knew nothing about, and it is REALLY sending me on a rollercoaster.

i'm pretty sure i'm reaching the end of the game soon, so, i'm really really excited. as for plot updates:

-maxed Yukari and Chihiro's Social Links! yeah, Yukari is best girl, no doubt about it. i really love her slightly two-faced nature, her attitude, everything. really good social link too.

Chihiro's was... alright. Her getting incredibly jealous to overcome her shyness, uh, reeked of sexism. but overall it was a good social link, stayed on topic, i like it. chihiro just isn't my type of girl.

-kyoto trip was really fun. speaking with Yuko actually made me like her way WAY more, where she straight up told me she was jealous and that she wanted me to herself. it really is a shame that non-party member girls FEEL like super side characters, more time where i got to spend with yuko during plot stuff would've gone a long way to me being more invested in her... with this very trip as case in point.

-oh no, a hot springs scene. but, i'll admit, it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be since Junpei and Ryoji genuinely didn't mean to end up in the situation. and also the girls presumably beating the shit out of the guys is so funny.

special shout out to Aigis's "Commencing Ignore Mode" [lol]

gonna need to actually tackle tartarus again. gonna say, it's getting really exhausting. it wasn't nearly as bad as i thought it would be, but it really feels like there's too many floors between each boss/area division.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#60548: Jan 12th 2021 at 9:17:27 PM

Also unless it sticks in your mind as a reason to play the game, I find I don't remember stuff I see, for example, on Tv Tropes pages.

But once you have the context of having played some of the game it gets way easier to be spoiled.

I'm sure I was spoiled about Naoto at some point in the past, but I didn't remember it at all. Getting spoiled on an unrelated forum thread the morning before I played her dungeon however, did spoil me.

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#60549: Jan 12th 2021 at 11:17:32 PM

Yeah, Tartarus floors aren't meant to be explored fully. At some point you just want to go to the next floor ASAP once you feel you've grinded enough.

I forgot what sector you're in at that point? The disco floor where you can barely see anything?

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#60550: Jan 13th 2021 at 12:02:06 AM

yup. climbed up some stairs that were DEFINITELY not there before and now i'm on disco floor.

i will say, tartarus looks great. i wish it changed aesthetics more often, but every single one has been great and interesting to look at. something that, unfortunately, 5 didn't do right with Mementos.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae

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