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Risdio51 The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about from that exit they call Paradise Since: Jun, 2019 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about
#60101: Sep 17th 2020 at 3:26:41 PM

Did a test fight on one of the wandering enemies beforehand

This...will be interesting...

I can't say goodbye to yesterday…
Risdio51 The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about from that exit they call Paradise Since: Jun, 2019 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about
#60102: Sep 17th 2020 at 3:41:22 PM

STOP FUCKING GIVING ONE A BUFF IN DEFENSE

I can't say goodbye to yesterday…
Risdio51 The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about from that exit they call Paradise Since: Jun, 2019 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about
#60103: Sep 18th 2020 at 1:57:20 PM

I DID IT

COUNTLESS HOURS

NIGH INFINITE DEATHS

GOD KNOWS HOW MANY DAYS SPENT IN THE SHOWER CRYING

I can't say goodbye to yesterday…
Risdio51 The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about from that exit they call Paradise Since: Jun, 2019 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
The Unknown Pleasure they were talking about
#60104: Sep 19th 2020 at 7:50:07 AM

I AM A LIVING GOD

I can't say goodbye to yesterday…
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#60105: Sep 19th 2020 at 10:21:18 PM

hey, just a tip, multiposting is generally bad form. triple/quadruple/quintupleposting especially.

next time just edit your first post for everyone else's sanity lol

Edited by EpicBleye on Sep 19th 2020 at 1:21:34 PM

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#60106: Sep 20th 2020 at 7:53:26 PM

Today, I took on the most difficult enemy in 5; the ridiculously long series of cutscenes that play when you finally catch up to the In Media Res. It took me more than an hour, and I fast forwarded through parts of it. I get that this kind of elaborate scheme is part of Heist stories, but when the infodump explaining the plan takes longer than the actual execution of the plan, maybe you've gone overboard.

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#60107: Sep 20th 2020 at 8:20:01 PM

That's a large problem with 5 in general. A large chunk of the plot and twists are overexplained. Even more so than Golden, 5's base campaign really needed and edit pass, the script constantly repeats itself about the major themes, gags, and mental distortions. The game kinda thinks it's got more to say than it actually does.

It doesn't help that the overexplanation goes hand in hand with underwriting the villains.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#60108: Sep 20th 2020 at 8:30:14 PM

Anyone remember the part where Akechi and Shido awkwardly exposit their history together for the sake of the audience?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#60110: Sep 20th 2020 at 8:31:57 PM

[up] Like at first, I thought it was interesting, but then I realized they are only doing this for the sake of an invisible audience and I just cracked up.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#60111: Sep 20th 2020 at 8:47:39 PM

Akechi, talking in-person to Shido with nothing to assure complete privacy: "Hey, remember when I did [x plot-relevant and also massively illegal and evil thing that you know about because you told me to do it]?”

The whole carefully-planned-out conspiracy would have been destroyed if there were someone outside the door. Or even passing by, if they were close enough.

Edited by Altris on Sep 20th 2020 at 8:48:33 AM

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#60112: Sep 20th 2020 at 8:52:00 PM

Eh, not really. "Hey, I see some poor stupid intern spying by my door. Do you wanna do your thing?" "Thought you'd never ask."

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60113: Sep 20th 2020 at 8:53:29 PM

That would have been funny.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#60114: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:04:11 PM

As funny as it would have been, Shido is the type never to leave ANY loose ends that could ruin his chances at Prime Minister.

Except for certain brats.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#60115: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:14:21 PM

I mean, he was planning to kill Akechi himself once they were done (and I suspect Shido had a sniper ready to take the kid out well before he could think of taking a trip to the Metaverse as well), so Shido is very big on cleaning up those loose ends, as Sae's boss (who likely had no real intention of betraying him) can attest.

I wonder if Shido was searching for ways to enter the meta verse himself. The biggest drawback to his plan is that he had to entirely rely on others for it to work. If he could figure out how to enter the Metaverse (though obviously without gaining a persona since he already had a palace), then he'd be bulletproof.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#60116: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:47:57 PM

[up] Yeah, he can't kill Akechi unless he finds a way to manipulate the meta verse on his own.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#60117: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:50:40 PM

[up]What ? Of course he can. You don't need to infiltrate the metaverse to order a sniper to press a trigger. Considering he even had mental defenses set up specifically to counter akechi, he probably thought of this long ago.

Actually, gaining a persona would probably have made him entirely bulletproof. Good luck changing the heart of someone who doesn't has a shadow (Yes, I know Takuto says hi but he 's a very special exception who has good reasons for bending so many rules in the first place) AND would have allowed him to go after targets himself, which considering how his shadow behaves, is a thing shido would probably be keener on that he lets on. The fact his palace has this experiments of merging shadows with cognitive beings so they can actually fight back clearly indicates he was trying to achieve stuff, it just wasn't up to work when the thieves moved on the offense.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#60118: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:53:13 PM

....which makes me think that Akechi's plan might have worked.

After all, how many years would it take for Shido to figure out a way to really use the Meta-verse without a middle man? Probably longer than it would take him to take over, and we know that was when Akechi was gonna plunge the proverbial knife in.

Unless Shido was farther along than we thought (and considering they were apparently using it to keep people from registering that Shido actually confessed), he might have been).

Eh, screw them both.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#60119: Sep 20th 2020 at 9:58:13 PM

[up][up] Remember, Shido's long term plans also involved using the Metaverse on other country's leaders and other powerful figures to make Japan and by extension, HIM great again.

EDIT: I mean he can't kill Akechi yet, because he's too useful at this stage.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 20th 2020 at 12:58:52 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#60120: Sep 20th 2020 at 10:18:03 PM

[up][up]Nah, people not registering Shido confessed was just Yaldy flexing his reality-bending muscles. It's unclear how much the conspiracy knew who they were getting this power from, but it wasn't their doing.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#60121: Sep 20th 2020 at 10:19:10 PM

[up] From what I understand, Yaldabaoth was not known to the members of the conspiracy, and he was using Shido as a puppet, ironically.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60122: Sep 21st 2020 at 1:35:41 AM

So I think I'm finally gonna do my complete Fe MC run of P 3 P but I'm curious about something, IIRC you can save Shinji here but even though he stays alive he isn't a full on party member? You just play with him the same limited amount of time as before?

Just thinking ahead to who my final party will be. Mitsuru, like Yukiko, is the best and therefore will stay a a permanent fixture in my party. Not sure about the other two spots.

Edited by Nikkolas on Sep 21st 2020 at 1:36:36 AM

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#60123: Sep 21st 2020 at 2:17:35 AM

Yeah, it's not death, but it's functionally the same thing with extra scenes. It's still pretty bittersweet, some fans IMO jump the gun saying it devalues the game's themes. 3 has Links more tied to the main plot in general.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#60124: Sep 21st 2020 at 7:33:48 PM

@ convoluted heist movie plots: You know, I watched Ocean's 11 the other day, and now I'm wondering if the scene where the eponymous band of thieves switch the tape of their raid on the Big Bad's vault with a fake showing them escaping a different way than they actually did, thus sending him on a wild goose chase was an at least partial inspiration for the "switch the real and cognitive world without the bad guys noticing" bit from P5.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Sep 21st 2020 at 9:34:08 AM

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#60125: Sep 22nd 2020 at 1:49:45 PM

Could somebody explain the figure skating and the cat ninja from the opening of Persona 5? It's been on my mind lately.


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