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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59776: Jul 30th 2020 at 8:40:29 AM

Small question:

When you get to a certain point in Shu's SL, everyone in your party goes to his house for his birthday. Usually this doesn't happen until everyone is recruited, but are there versions with fewer people in the team?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59777: Jul 30th 2020 at 10:26:01 AM

[up][up]Those are called Skill Inheritance rules. Every Persona corresponds to a certain type, like fire or ice. Depending on the type, it makes a person inheriting certain skills from fusion impossible. Phys type persona for example, can't inherit elemental skills at all.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#59778: Jul 30th 2020 at 10:50:00 AM

The reason Naoto doesn't say anything during that scene is because it's entirely possible to get it without her. IDK about Rise and Teddie, I don't think it's possible before they join.

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59779: Jul 30th 2020 at 3:14:00 PM

Just got the True Ending! Now it's time for NG+ to complete the Achievements! (Also, the last round of Teddie's Quiz Show isn't up. I guess you need the Golden Ending for that?)

Final Boss Party was Naoto, Yukiko, and Kanji. Yu and Rise were in their 90's, everyone else early 80's.

The Achievements I have left are: Card Collector, Through Bookkeeper, Legend of Inaba, Movie Buff, Welcome Back, Big Bro is Worried, A New Quiz King, The Power of Truth, The Reaper Becomes The Reaped, and One Who Has Proven Their Power.

Anyone else find the Fog Machine harder than Izanami?

Edited by Smasher on Jul 30th 2020 at 6:25:59 AM

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59780: Jul 31st 2020 at 1:11:40 PM

So apparently I killed this thread. Anyway, now for a stat: Excluding one-shots, there have been 7 Arcana that haven't been a romantic option: Fool(Because Fool is the protagonist), Magician(Although the Yos-Gay mod is trying to fix that), Emperor, Hierophant, Hanged Man (sort of), Tower, and Judgement.

Edited by Smasher on Jul 31st 2020 at 4:13:39 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#59781: Jul 31st 2020 at 1:29:29 PM

The Hierophant has been given to older characters so far, with an elderly couple in 3 and what amounts to your new dad in 4 and 5. And Judgement has been associated with the party as a whole. Of course, that depends on how you look at the Aeon Arcana relative to Judgement, really. Unless, of course, you want to imagine SEES, the Investigation Team or the Phantom Thieves as the protagonist's bisexual harem or something.

Edited by Blueace on Jul 31st 2020 at 4:30:33 AM

Wake me up at your own risk.
RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#59782: Jul 31st 2020 at 1:32:09 PM

the Phantom Thieves as the protagonist's bisexual harem

They aren't?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#59783: Jul 31st 2020 at 1:32:27 PM

[up][up] Wait you telling me they already aren't?

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 31st 2020 at 1:32:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59784: Jul 31st 2020 at 1:41:27 PM

We can't date Ryuji or Yusuke.

So it's only the Protag's heterosexual harem. That will beat the shit out of you if they found out.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#59785: Jul 31st 2020 at 1:49:17 PM

Judgement is the party as a whole, so unless the game explicitly gives the option to date the whole team, male and female teammates alike, simultaneously as either your harem or a big poly relationship, you can't have Judgement love interests. And Morgana is a cat, unless the third semester stuff stays, that would be quite the obstacle.

Edited by Blueace on Jul 31st 2020 at 4:50:47 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#59786: Jul 31st 2020 at 1:55:23 PM

And Emperor's always a guy in your party, so unless Gay Kanji becomes a thing in Persona 4 mods or Persona 6 allows gay relationships, looks like that won't happen.

The legend has returned.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59787: Jul 31st 2020 at 2:04:07 PM

Wasn't there a gay option in the old Persona games? Was it 2?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#59788: Jul 31st 2020 at 2:05:32 PM

It was. A dude named Jun Kurosu who acts as the Big Bad for the game (but is really The Heavy for real big bad Nyarlothep).

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59789: Jul 31st 2020 at 2:07:51 PM

[up] So the only gay option in Persona is evil.

Uhhhh....

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59791: Jul 31st 2020 at 2:09:31 PM

[up] What's his deal anyway?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#59792: Jul 31st 2020 at 2:20:27 PM

Brainwashed by the real big bad. He snaps out of it and then joins the party.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59793: Jul 31st 2020 at 2:23:35 PM

[up] Aaah, that's a lot less terrible than i thought.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59794: Jul 31st 2020 at 3:50:35 PM

The Investigation Team feel more like a bisexual harem than the Phantom Thieves.

I mean there's the cut Yos-gay romance, Kanji's vague sexuality, and Teddie has a human form that is more... permanent than Morgana's. (And Teddie is a pervert while Morgana just likes Ann.)

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59795: Jul 31st 2020 at 5:00:10 PM

I was gonna "give [Teddie] all I got" when he asked for a smooch but then Dojima walked in on us and was like "what the hell are you two doing?"

This game is awesome.

Everyone is horny in P4.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 31st 2020 at 5:00:26 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#59796: Jul 31st 2020 at 5:03:16 PM

Explains a lot about the first few dungeons and half the party's Shadows.

Edited by Blueace on Jul 31st 2020 at 8:07:34 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#59797: Jul 31st 2020 at 5:16:33 PM

It's a running theme for sure, like how all of Persona 3's characters had to deal with death and all of Persona 5's characters are outcasts in society. Persona 4's cast is all surprisingly horny unless you're Yukiko.

The legend has returned.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#59798: Jul 31st 2020 at 5:19:26 PM

Everyone in the party has a gender or sexuality-related subtext to some degree. Yosuke shooting down implications of being gay, which means he's fully aware of the implications. Chie and Yukiko have their self-images based on their attractiveness and self-worth, along with their heavy Les Yay. Kanji and Naoto's gender issues unrelated to sexuality are a whole can of worms on their own. And Teddie is non-human and doesn't have traditional sexual norms, as well as crossdresses.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59799: Jul 31st 2020 at 5:25:57 PM

Teddie gets a bum rap.

For one thing, he's a 1-year-old. Secondly, his personality was molded and shaped by his contact with the aforementioned super sexualized cast.

His horniness is like that of a kindergartener who first head the word 'scoring' and now just repeats it over and over and over.

I wonder if Morgana gets more of a break because he looks like a tiny baby anime cat while Teddie looks like a teenage male even though he's blatantly not and doesn't act like one any more than Aigis acts like a teenage girl.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 31st 2020 at 5:27:22 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#59800: Jul 31st 2020 at 5:42:12 PM

[up][up]

What about Rise?

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