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Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#59751: Jul 28th 2020 at 6:28:18 AM

Royal came out before Scramble. And both started development roughly around the same time. Actually I think Scamble started a few months before but it got a plot direction shift at the start.

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59752: Jul 28th 2020 at 7:14:17 AM

Gasp! Someone who likes older and newer Persona!

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59753: Jul 28th 2020 at 7:25:05 AM

I have never played persona 2 and I thought persona 1 was ass but I might pick up 2 for it’s insane sounding plot.

Plus I get to kill Hitler.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#59755: Jul 28th 2020 at 7:45:14 AM

Excuse me, there is no Hitler in Persona 2. You may be confusing him for Fuhrer, but he can't be Hitler; he wears sunglasses.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#59756: Jul 28th 2020 at 8:18:42 AM

Considering gaming culture today, stopping Hitler would be seen as SJW pandering.

LOL LOL LOL oh my god :(

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#59757: Jul 28th 2020 at 9:03:42 AM

I'll still genuinely say 1 has a solid story and cast, it's just the gameplay that's crap. And even then, I really like the negotiation system, it's the frequency of battles that hurt it so hard.

I know a lot of people would rather read the manga, but there's way too many cuts and needless additions for my liking. Part of 2's appeal is seeing how all three games share a setting and continuous cast, it's not quite like anything else in SMT. Aside from maybe Digital Devil Saga.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#59758: Jul 28th 2020 at 9:23:06 AM

I didn't think the manga cut anything important, and I'm including Ayase in that statement. It also added in way too much good stuff like the protagonist and a deeper focus on Maki that whatever it did lose, I don't consider it too big a loss.

P1's gameplay is definitely rough but there's nothing else quite like it and I wish they didn't give up on that hybrid strategy RPG thing they had going on.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#59759: Jul 28th 2020 at 9:36:35 AM

The protagonist thing is a neat idea. I just don't think it was necessary, it feels disconnected from the plot. The protagonist of 1 is a complete nonentity that occasionally gets a yes or no prompt, which I'm fine with. It's Maki and the party you chose that's the star of the show. Removing most of Snow Queen bugs me more than anything. Still, I get it if people would rather read the manga, the random battles and wonky level curve make it a real slog unless you play on easy or make a one-man party that can solo everything.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59760: Jul 28th 2020 at 5:52:51 PM

Got the Accomplice ending. He's so happy and just listen that nice music as the game tells me I forged a bond that can never be broken. Did a good thing. I'd love to se a future AU of this. Maybe one of those Adachi x Adult Nanako fanfics mentioned in here builds on this.

Seriously though, along with probably getting the hospital stuff incorrect on first tries, I wonder how many people only figured out who the Killer was when the game helpfully provided a list of names where every name was obviously wrong save one. I know I only figured it out thanks to this. I and probably many others be fucked if the game somehow asked us to figure it out totally on our own.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 28th 2020 at 5:54:10 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#59761: Jul 28th 2020 at 6:27:33 PM

The original version was pretty easy to figure out since the killer was the only character left that didn't have a Social Link with you. Golden, honestly, gives you hints during his Social Link where he's kind of an ass.

The legend has returned.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59762: Jul 28th 2020 at 6:28:52 PM

[up][up] Adachi's totally going to arrest you though and become a karma houdini.

As for that couple? No. Just NO!

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59763: Jul 28th 2020 at 7:17:02 PM

Made it all the way to February 1st! Every SL other than Marie and Adachi are maxed! The gang are in their 80's, level wise.

I spent some good time with Rise for holidays, and I just got back from the TV World to hunt for quest items.

Now I just have to put up with that test and the ski trip! Then it'll be time for the ending!

Edited by Smasher on Jul 28th 2020 at 10:19:35 AM

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59764: Jul 28th 2020 at 7:44:48 PM

I took on Ameno-sagiri at Level 64, basically as underleveled as every other boss. I did way better than I expected. I remembered nothing about the Adachi fight or this fight so I expected to die on Adachi or something. But I got Big Eye Guy down to a fuckin' SLIVER of health before he killed me with a Quake. Dummy me hadn't lowered his Attack again and also I wasted Rise's auto-revive when trying to lower his stats during his huge charge up time so said charge up move killed me. Rookie mistakes, from a guy who beat the game.

Oh well. The real pain is all the SP I gotta use up.... Using up all my SP recovering items in this fight. His constant Dekajas and Dekundas really drains your SP and also means I have to spend all my time debuffing him. That's why I didn't Tarunda him again, I was desperate to do some damage this turn and actually finish the fight. You don't wanna get stuck in that heal/res loop.

I'm having more fun with the bosses than I did last run though so I'm happy. Getting multiple turns for no reason and constant Dekajas and Dekundas, this will be an SMT game yet.

EDIT:

And I juust beat the Killer and Ameno-sagiri. It's nice being underleveled. I remember no bosses after Shadow Mitsuo because I just slept through everything after that. Here though it's a real struggle at Level 64. Not impossible or frustrating but still a struggle.

Even the music is so much better when it's a struggle. I didn't think anything of this song originally but hearing this https://youtu.be/fV7DahJVudI?t=80

While you're fighting to survive is so awesome.

Also thanks to Teddie and Naoto, my main frustration with the early game is long done with. I have a team that can actually buff! I can focus on debuffing the boss or healing or damage. I don't have to do everything myself. It really does increase the enjoyment of the battle system tenfold for me.

So proud of my Hariti. Always one of my fave demons/personas and the fact I got a Salvation from a Skill Change as well a Spell Master Skill Card for her makes her the perfect Healsona.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 28th 2020 at 10:31:32 AM

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59765: Jul 29th 2020 at 11:53:42 AM

You did that on the 22nd, right?

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59766: Jul 29th 2020 at 2:30:20 PM

Uh, I dunno. I did it on the first day I could. I can never remember dates.

I'm worried about the Hollow Forest though. I was so overleveled last time I just breezed through it but I figure I gotta get Naoto's and Teddie's third Persona (already got Yukiko's) and then spend at least one day training up a few levels.

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59767: Jul 29th 2020 at 2:50:30 PM

That's a bad idea if you want to do Social Links. Since you skip all the way to the 24th afterwards.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59768: Jul 29th 2020 at 3:11:59 PM

See I didn't know/remember that. Oops.

Uusally you wanna do dungeons in one day because some S Links won't happen while dungeons need to be completed... That was what I told all the way back in my first run.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 29th 2020 at 3:12:50 AM

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59769: Jul 29th 2020 at 8:38:11 PM

Reddit has some great Persona memes/quotes

https://www.reddit.com/r/PERSoNA/comments/hzlz2u/trust_me_yosuke_i_would_never_expect_that_from_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Although really I'm all about Teddie in this run. That random NPC who was like "...I'd hit it" when Teddie was crossdressing spoke wisdom. Even when I had everyone else in normal attire for fighting the Killer and Ameno-sagiri because Atmosphere, I kept Teddie in drag because holy shit, just look at him. He's way prettier than most of the girls.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 29th 2020 at 8:38:10 AM

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59770: Jul 29th 2020 at 9:45:00 PM

Got the Normal Ending! Time to defeat the one behind it all.

I wonder what Myth the next man behind the man will be from. P3's was Grecco-Roman, P4's was Japanese, and P5's was Abrahamic/Gnostic.

Edited by Smasher on Jul 29th 2020 at 12:57:54 PM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#59771: Jul 29th 2020 at 9:49:09 PM

Norse? It'd be interesting to see what they would do with Mesoamerican Myth, hopefully.

Wake me up at your own risk.
ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#59772: Jul 29th 2020 at 10:21:50 PM

hey, maybe Nyarly will come back.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#59774: Jul 30th 2020 at 12:57:05 AM

Unused dialogue regarding costumes from Royal implies that P3 is set in Odaiba

Bewitching Eyes
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59775: Jul 30th 2020 at 7:03:28 AM

So why can't some Personas learn certain Phys skills? I didn't remember this.

I forgot some skills are completely unique and untransferable but I don't mean that. I mean stuff like Primal Force or God's Hand. I wanted to put them on better, newer Personas but the ones I first tried won't "take" the abilities.


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