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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#59126: Jul 3rd 2020 at 7:22:18 PM

Nope, just Marie because why wouldn't she reveal who she was by the time they went through all this shit to save her?

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#59127: Jul 3rd 2020 at 7:24:48 PM

[up] Because Marie was a poorly thought out new character as opposed to Kasumi/ Sumire and Maruki.

Fe MC counts too, I guess. In fact, if P3 is remade using P5's engine, I could see the Fe MC be the equivalent of an extra character like them if Male MC is chosen and vice versa.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Jul 3rd 2020 at 10:25:49 AM

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59128: Jul 3rd 2020 at 7:25:42 PM

[up][up] I don't know what this post is about since she tells you all about who and what she is.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#59129: Jul 3rd 2020 at 7:28:01 PM

I meant in relation to Margaret and Igor. Like she should probably mention the other woman in blue and the man with the long nose.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59130: Jul 3rd 2020 at 7:33:25 PM

True but, again, none of our heroes tell anybody. Minato went to the grave and didn't tell a soul.

And he even took Elizabeth out of the Velvet Room for dates so it isn't like he couldn't have introduced her to people. You don't actually run into people while on dates with her, do you? Pretty sure not.

That was one of the cool things about P4, characters could wander into each other's S Links while every S Link is its own mini dimension in FES.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 3rd 2020 at 7:34:14 AM

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59131: Jul 3rd 2020 at 8:52:12 PM

Persona Q2 established that the male and female are from different timelines.

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#59132: Jul 4th 2020 at 2:01:51 AM

Yup, elizabeth's date don't involve meeting anyone.

I seem to have read the p4 gang will end up passing by the velvet room for the marie arc but I'm just at nanako right now so might have understood it wrong.

But yeah, I always found weird how the protag never really tried to talk about the velvet room in all three games, especially since 3 and 5 actually brings it up a couple times (you can mention igor in some dialogue options of p5 but then everyone just shrugs and moves along, and 3 and 5 have characters comment that while you're using the velvet room you're standing still and staring into the distance. 4 at least only brings it up for marie's SL)

It's also weird cause the game seem to think you couldn't explain the velvet room to other people, but... those people all have seen surpernatural shit and your power is fundamentally different from the others, what stops them from accepting another one ? and besides, you could prove something is there and they just can't see it if you really wanted. Grab the frame of the door with your fist and ask you friends to make you clench the fist as hard as they can. There you go.

Edited by Yumil on Jul 4th 2020 at 11:03:47 AM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#59133: Jul 4th 2020 at 12:59:08 PM

i love how in 5 joker ways gives as shitty an explanation as possible too, starting off with something like "there's this long nosed man..." and everyone goes "huh?"

Edited by EpicBleye on Jul 4th 2020 at 4:00:09 AM

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59134: Jul 4th 2020 at 9:16:29 PM

So what's the story explanation for why some bosses are stronger than others in P4 and P5?

Why is Shadow Shido way stronger than the others?

it just dawned on me that there is no real Why to, say, Shadow Teddie being stronger than Shadow Kanji but he sure as hell was.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#59135: Jul 4th 2020 at 9:42:38 PM

Maybe it has something to do with willpower or the "amount" of darkness they're concealing? Or in Teddy's case, the fact that it's a Shadow of a Shadow?

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#59136: Jul 4th 2020 at 10:04:58 PM

[up][up] Shido is stronger because Nanomachines, Son!

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#59137: Jul 5th 2020 at 1:13:24 AM

[up][up][up]Funny you take shadow teddy in example since you could actually make an explanation for that, since he's different from all the other shadows because ameno-sagiri bullshit.

But as a general rule, it's really just a matter of the story moving forward requiring stronger antagonists to fight for the climax. The games have never given an explanation for why the bosses are stronger than the previous ones. You may try to give an explanation, but there'd be nothing in the text of the game that would support it.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#59138: Jul 5th 2020 at 2:08:48 AM

Yeah Shadow Teddie was Ameno-Sagiri basically giving it power and controlling it, which in turn probably created Teddie the 'Human'.

They even use some of the same tactics and Rise notes Ameno-Sagiri's presence, which the anime runs with and makes it the true target to win.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#59139: Jul 5th 2020 at 6:23:06 AM

Ah, I forgot that Ameno-Sagiri was involved. That’s probably it then.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#59140: Jul 5th 2020 at 2:04:07 PM

So I think some interesting questions are raised by Marukiland. For starters, do people still die? Even if it's completely natural, even if they were very old or sick and everyone around them knew they were going to die... losing someone still causes pain, and Maruki is 100% anti-pain.

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#59141: Jul 5th 2020 at 2:14:16 PM

Maybe it could be some version of what the Crystals from Final Fantasy Type-0 do, where as soon as someone dies everyone forgets they existed.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59142: Jul 5th 2020 at 2:59:11 PM

It's too bad Scramble won't have Kasumi. Maybe we should have one more spinoff game before Persona 6.

By the way, I started P 4 G yesterday and I couldn't finish Yukiko's castle because I was out of SP items. That and the sixth floor guys were really difficult. At least I made it to level 10, though. (I overprepared on the 5th floor boss, thinking it was the end.) Well now time to get back to the game and do some socializing before going back.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#59143: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:23:25 PM

@ Smasher: P5 Arena is a given, as a few Arc Sys reps have repeatedly stated interest in making one.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59144: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:24:24 PM

They made a Persona 5 dancing game, they are most likely going to make a fighting game.

Let's hope it's better than 4.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#59145: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:32:58 PM

They better have learned a couple lessons. Although Morgana's hitbox will likely be a nightmare.

Wonder how they'd give them their own style, honestly.

Edited by Blueace on Jul 5th 2020 at 6:35:09 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59146: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:35:22 PM

Think we might see Shadow Versions of the Thieves?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#59147: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:40:25 PM

Persona 4 Arena was pretty good

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#59148: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:45:27 PM

[up] I never did say Arena was bad, just hoping 5 arena surpasses it.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#59149: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:45:57 PM

Every now and then I think about Labrys and how good she was.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59150: Jul 5th 2020 at 3:59:15 PM

The Persona 5 Anime is finally getting dubbed, and everyone is reprising their roles

You can finally hear Joker speak in complete sentences for the low low price of.....$300 USD.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jul 5th 2020 at 6:59:13 AM

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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