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Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#59051: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:18:33 AM

[up][up] I find the adults social link in P5 to be great but not all the younger ones are as great. Maybe it's because I'm an adult?

I kind of wish SL character development meshed better with the plot though.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#59052: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:21:42 AM

The only not great social links are Makoto since it's not about her, the Velvet Room guys since their focus is in the main story anyway, and Get Smoked Kid who is just a bland character that's only useful for gameplay purposes.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#59053: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:27:37 AM

Velvet room twins get more character in the dates (Which aren't even sexual despite some peoples fears they woul dbe like with elizabeth, its more like an older brother taking his curious younger sisters out to various parts of Tokyo) that are funny as fuck, especially the Maid Cafe one.

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Shyhero Unmotivated dyslexic writer. from Sofa (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Unmotivated dyslexic writer.
#59054: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:28:37 AM

Persona 5 Royale new chapter thoughts. Also bad with names excuse me.

So Lamo was all "I will make everybody happy by taking away their ambition and granting all wishes" But what about when the wishes get strange? I wish for Dinosaurs? I wish for sexy clowns, I wish Jokers girlfriend was a Kaju! He can't just keep granting wishes like those.

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#59055: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:33:02 AM

Get smoked kid's confident is great as far as I'm concerned. Has a bit of a problem of going along his worst moments that some persona confidents tend to have, but he has a nice arc and he's pretty mature for his age.

[up]pretty sure he could grant most of those ? Guy has seemingly unlimited control over cognition, what's to stop him from indulging all those wishes ? Wouldn't even be too surprising if he managed to bend reality to make contradictory wishes work out.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Shyhero Unmotivated dyslexic writer. from Sofa (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Unmotivated dyslexic writer.
#59056: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:55:35 AM

[up]If I knew how to post images you would be seeing Ian Malcolm right now.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#59057: Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:57:45 AM

@ Shyhero: Maruki's power of Actualization is on the same level as Philemon and Nylarlathotep from P2. Saying that he can't grant those with the power of Cognitive Pscience is kinda low balling Maruki's power.

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Shyhero Unmotivated dyslexic writer. from Sofa (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Unmotivated dyslexic writer.
#59058: Jul 2nd 2020 at 8:05:16 AM

My point is it would lead to madness. Not that he can't.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#59059: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:08:40 AM

I like to think Makoto's confidant isn't about her since she already dominates a good portion of the main story.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#59060: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:26:13 AM

So does every other non-Haru party member.

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#59061: Jul 2nd 2020 at 9:36:21 AM

Not that much ? people like Ann and yusuke clearly take a backseat to people like futaba and Makoto in term both of speaking time, but also of plot relevance. Makoto basically gets two palaces of focus, while futaba is basically the most important member of the team.

Haru gets shafted really hard, and morgana and ryuji are somewhere in the middle, morgana for being plot relevant and ryuji for being the bro archetype, which by default gives him a very consistent presence throughout the game.

Edited by Yumil on Jul 2nd 2020 at 6:37:47 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#59062: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:00:00 AM

A Yusuke fan had to point out to me that Yusuke is pretty wise at time and tend to try to calm the group most of the time. And now that I'm playing Royal I can see what they mean but heck if I could notice this on my first playthrough.

Yusuke, Ann and Haru kind of just end up in the background and since characters are static it does not help.

Ryuji escapes it because he's the only character that can be used to inject the typical P4 like anime humor and butt monkey jokes. Morgana's confidant is story linked so his character arc has to be included in the story.

That said, I'm not a fan of Ann's SL. I know where it was going and I like the destination but something about the execution didn't click with me. I don't know how to explain, it feels a bit like it's going on two different places? I dunno, I don't want to call it aimless though.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59063: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:01:19 AM

Yea, Ann and Yusuke take a backseat after their arcs are over and don't contribute much from there on out. Haru...is self explanatory.

Makoto and Futaba, having relatives tied directly to the plot, are given much more focus even after their initial arcs.

Ryuji doesn't do much, but being Joker's bf gives him a ton of focus, and Morgana similarly has an arc spanning the game.

Akechi and Kasumi have the entire third semester to themselves.

So really, only Ann, Yusuke, and Haru get the shaft

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#59064: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:06:50 AM

ann and yusuke sorta scrape by it because they're introduced very early on, so while they never get a lot of focus, you can always see them say their piece in a discussion and contribute to make the game feel like a group of friends discussing.

Haru is in the same mold but suffers from super late availability and her own arc behind sorta hijacked by morgana, which is what makes it stick out so much.

Edited by Yumil on Jul 2nd 2020 at 7:06:57 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#59065: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:20:01 AM

Honestly I would have been fine with scapping the trip to Hawaii (maybe a school trip in Japan so Morgana can tag along) and just use that time for Haru's issues and Morgana's problems.

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59066: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:28:56 AM

Why is Kasumi so mature about being shot down? She's one of the female confidants who loves Akiren before Rank 9, and confesses at that point, but if you friendzone her, she's probably the most mature about it of all the non-adult confidants.

Ann, Makoto, Futaba, Hifumi, and especially Haru are all disappointed to varying degrees if Akiren doesn't romance them.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#59067: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:31:40 AM

Kasumi's been through a lot as far as growing up goes.

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Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#59068: Jul 2nd 2020 at 10:35:48 AM

Maybe it's because I'm incapable of romance but I didn't feel disappointment from Hifumi or Ann. Hell even Makoto's love flag felt like it came out of nowhere for me. Now Chihaya, that was disappointment that even I could feel.

I'm not at Kasumi yet and haven't been spoiled so I can't say much about her maturity.

Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59069: Jul 2nd 2020 at 11:03:27 AM

In Ann's Rank 9, she is crying over Shiho, if you decide to friendzone her, she simply agrees and leaves. She outright says those three words if you decide to romance her. So she's a little disappointed.

I guess I'll give you Hifumi though, don't know what I was thinking.

Kagamikazuto Kazuto from NC Since: Feb, 2020 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Kazuto
#59070: Jul 2nd 2020 at 12:04:29 PM

I like Hifumi because she looks like a P5 Yukiko.

Can't think of one.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59071: Jul 2nd 2020 at 1:59:27 PM

@Shyhero: Actually its totally possible to normalize the insanity if you enforce it.

That was Yaldyboats Evil Plan after all. Make humans accept the world he will make unconditionally and most of them did until the PT defeated his Archangel minions with Morgana.

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#59072: Jul 2nd 2020 at 2:20:41 PM

Speaking of Yaldyboat, I noticed the translation of Royal makes it more clear that he's a fake and not the real God.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59073: Jul 2nd 2020 at 2:34:51 PM

Which is meaningless description, what with YH Vh and Yaldyboat being one and the same in the SMTI-II timeline thanks to NINE.

And P5 borrows heavily from that. We even got Maria in a Persona game now.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#59074: Jul 2nd 2020 at 2:43:16 PM

The precise nature of how each SMT game relates to each other, let aloene to Persona, is pretty vague.

Yaldy is a clear analogue for YHVH but he's not really YHVH as we saw him in, say, SMTIVA.

All Persona superbeings are made from the collective unconscious right? That's not where demons and the like come from in SMT.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 2nd 2020 at 2:44:34 AM

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010

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