Persona series

Star I remember cause it's the athelete guy, and because my first introduction to him was people summing him up as "Look, we both know I'm putting up with you because I want Helel, so make up with the boring introspectiong alreayd" and finding myself in disagreement with the notion and thinking he was pretty cool.

Temperance I honestly blaned on and had to get a reminder - it's the french overly enthusiastic kid that has like family dilemma about going back to france. I think. I remember his face now that I've seen it but the content of his social link I don't really.

Edited by Yumil on Jun 30th 2020 at 3:42:29 PM

I thought the athlete guy was chariot. Or were there just two athlete guys? Or was chariot Aegis I remember she was Aeon too? Wow, I cannot remember P3's SL and it's bugging me. I don't want to look at the wiki because it would be like admitting defeat, lol.

I remember all the P4 SL and I played P4 before P3. That's so weird.

Yeah, I think I remember the french guy now. He's the one SL I couldn't finish and messed up my run. I got the bad ending to start over after that. XD

Edited by Cosplaythief on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:16:13 AM

2 Athlete guys, yeah.

That's confusing to have two Athletes.

I remember: -Kenji the magician

-Student council president emperor

-Justice girl from student council

-Old couple hierophant

-Poor story book guy Sun

-Tanaka Devil

-There was a track running that pushed himself too much I think he was chariot

-Our female party members Lovers, Empress, Priestess, Aeon for Aigis

I can't remember the others, there was a little girl too I think. And the other two Yumil told me.

Fe MC had a sport girl named Rio and another weird girl that I don't remember her arcana.

Edited by Cosplaythief on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:36:43 AM

Little girl was Hanged Man.

Art club guy was Wheel of Fortune.

Tower was the old monk.

Moon was the guy everybody hated.

Thanks! Wow, I keep forgetting the Tower arcana exists for every game.

I think I might go play P3 after my royal playthrough. Probably will play P 3 P though.

Vanilla P3 Star dude

Maiko the Little Girl (Also known in some circles as Proto Nanako or Maiko Caine) is Hanged Man, yeah.

Which, considering the symbolism of Hanged Man, is pretty fucked up in its owsn way.

Also, Made it to the Calling card date for the Third semester.

I don't care what anyone says, after experiencing the whole situation, "I Believe" is my favorite song in the whole Persona series, Period. And the third semester itself is easily the best finale to any Persona game, including P2 and P3. Heresy ,I'm sure, but I'm sticking to it.

I don't know if it's the main reason or just a reason why Moon guy in Persona 3 is hated, but at some point in his link you will reverse the link no matter what you do only for the game to go 'just kidding' and rank up like normal.

Moon guy is the foodie right?

Yeah. I don't actually hate him myself, since I think he's a decently-written character, but he's a Gonk who starts off acting like a jerk, starts to get friendlier with you, then he turns out to be part of a cult, starts being a jerk again, turns out to have an Superiority Inferiority Complex, admits he's been a jerk to a lot of people, then moves to America to become a food critic. The intent behind him as an actual character seemed to be that he wasn't supposed to be straightforwardly sympathetic.

Edited by MisterTambourineMan on Jun 30th 2020 at 11:03:20 AM

I remembe I was so disappointed that P 3 P didn't have the extensive AI Command options of FES.

Now don't getme wrong, Direct Command is vastly superior in all ways. But I am a deeply nostalgic and romantic person and I started with P 3 FES which only had AI commands and so I feel it's vital to the Persona 3 experience to play with AI party members.

BUT for some incredibly stupid reason, P 3 P, P4 and P5 all keep AI commands except it's only the barebones version. We'll give you AI controls like P3 but none of the extensive AI options for controls like you had in P3. That's less than worthless. Just drop it entirely if you're not even going to bother including the improvements you unlocked in P3.

Yeah, I'm one of the weirdos who actually really liked the AI-controlled party in P3. It could certainly be improved on (something that let you control the party manually in exchange for some sort of minor penalty to the MC's personal actions would be nice, like they're splitting their attention to give direct instructions), but P3 felt like playing as a character fighting together with a group of allies (rather than a disembodied entity psychically puppetting three or four different people) like nothing else I've ever played. And honestly, just keeping them set on Knock Down was good enough for 99% of random battles, while boss battles had them on either Full Offense or Heal/Support instead. They didn't always do exactly what you wanted (or expected), but that was part of the charm — and it was never so bad that I felt like I lost a fight because of the AI control.

Seriously though, Knock Down was the best AI command. Why do the later games not have that option.

Because Direct Command is even better than any AI setting.

You can never tell what will become a meme. All the P 4 G talk has me in a general Persona mood again and I was looking up vids on Persona stuff. Apparently Akihiko's "did you see that, Shinji?" AND "i'VE BEEEN WAITING FOR THIS!" are memes from P3's original popularity.

But what I always remember is Mitsuru's 'OUTTA MY WAY!!!!" Because, well, its' Mitsuru. Refined, composed, elegant lady person. And here she is straight up bellowing "get the fuck outta my way!" Not in those exact words but the way she delivers the line the "fuck" is very much implied. She's so angry and impatient and just get the fuck outta her way.

love Mitsuru, perfect in every way.

Also I never had a problem with her repeatedly trying to Charm bosses. The big problem with P3's AI party members is that, generally, you're gonna be fighting bosses more than once. You're gonna die and do it over. As such, in the second attempt, you will have a better idea of what works and what doesn't work. If you could control your party members, you could make them start straightaway with what you know works. As it is, they have to at least try once for their AI to learn "that's useless." A waste of a precious turn. So while she never just spammed Marin Karin like people make it out to be, she and the others did frequently have to learn what you already knew and that is a special weakness of having an AI party like that.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jul 1st 2020 at 7:20:17 AM

I'm re-reading the Persona 1 manga ('cause it's fascinating) and I stumbled on a fun Mythology Gag; in Chapter 6 a flashback shows Masao Inaba wearing the same hat as his Americanized counterpart from Revelations: Persona.

Jesus christ Rise's thristy something fierce.

I can now see what someone meant when they said she was excessively possessive of the MC.

Edited by Yumil on Jul 2nd 2020 at 1:54:02 PM

Kohai in the streets, beast in the sheets.

I personally liked that Rise was proactive.

I liked Rise a lot more when I realized that she actual tends to prefer you picking the most outrageous dialogue options. It's nice to have part of the game that actually rewards you for that.

Iwai is one of my favorite Social Links from P5 for similar reasons to Rise. He likes the outlandish and crazy options.

Persona 5's Social Links in general are probably the most high-quality things in the game in terms of writing.

My issue with Rise wasn't that she was aggressive in pursuing Yu, it was that there wasn't much else to her. After her dungeon where she deals with her idol issues, pretty much the entire rest of her personality is "wants to make out with Yu", which wasn't particularly interesting.

Having just finished Royal, the Third Semester is my favorite part of any Persona or SMT game in terms of writing, period, including P2 and DDS 1 and 2.