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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#58726: Jun 25th 2020 at 8:48:31 AM

Translation question, spoiler alert:

Why is her name translated as Sumire? Shouldn't it be Tsumirei? That would be closer to how its pronounced.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#58727: Jun 25th 2020 at 9:12:17 AM

[up]Because her name is written as すみれ in Japanese. If her name was 'Tsumirei,' it would be written as つみれい.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Jun 25th 2020 at 9:15:36 AM

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#58728: Jun 25th 2020 at 2:34:33 PM

Su-mi-re, not Sue-mire

means violet, as in the flower, IIRC

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#58729: Jun 25th 2020 at 7:40:48 PM

But if it's pronounced like that, why isn't there a T in front of the S like in most Japanese names? Besides, they pronounce it in the game like Tsumirei.

Edited by Smasher on Jun 25th 2020 at 10:42:51 AM

MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#58730: Jun 25th 2020 at 8:17:32 PM

Because "Sumire" looks better?

Alright, I know that doesn't sound like a great answer, but it's the best I can think of.

Edited by MisterTambourineMan on Jun 25th 2020 at 8:17:49 AM

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#58731: Jun 25th 2020 at 8:54:25 PM

no, that's actually probably it. it's not at all uncommon for localization teams to just go with "s" instead of "ts", though its typically at the request of the owner companies. ATLUS in particular is notorious for requesting Americanizations of names/pronunciations.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58732: Jun 25th 2020 at 10:11:00 PM

Look at this cutout of Joker wearing clothes with Ryuji on it

They have some merch with Ryuji wearing a Joker shirt and Ann a Ryuji one too.

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Sivartis Captionless One from Lubberland, or the Isle of Lazye Since: Apr, 2009
Captionless One
#58733: Jun 26th 2020 at 9:16:36 AM

Regarding the translation: What Dragonfire said. If it's written in Japanese as すみれ, then Sumire is the standard Hepburn romanization. す is transliterated as "Su", while つ is transliterated as "Tsu".

Also, I just started the PC version of P4 Golden. ...Does Chie's new voice actress get any better? If not, I might just play with Japanese voices.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#58734: Jun 26th 2020 at 9:21:05 AM

What [up] said; す (su) and つ (tsu) are pronounced differently from each other.

I'm kind of reminded how I've heard some people pronounce "tsunami" as "soo-nami" which, as you can probably guess, is not how it's pronounced in Japanese.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Jun 26th 2020 at 9:26:03 AM

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#58735: Jun 26th 2020 at 9:25:16 AM

Chie's VA really grows on you, it's closer to the Japanese take and matches the intent better, also less vocally similar to Yukiko. Though Chie's original VA was really great as well, she had a good grasp on the small stutters and nervousness she has.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#58736: Jun 26th 2020 at 10:01:45 AM

But they pronounce her name as /sɘ / not /tsɘ/. The only way you could possibly hear /tsɘ/ is due to collisions. It's romanised exactly as it sounds, since Hepburn has a one-to-one correspondence between phonetic output and written representation.

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#58737: Jun 26th 2020 at 10:04:28 AM

It's a bit of a missed opportunity that we don't get to see the Marukiland versions of the other confidants. I'd like to see their ideal lives. Of course Kawakami mentions in her classroom that her Utopia would involve meat and booze, but she'd be fat and hung over all the time. I'd also like too see just what Maruki did to Ushimaru (or whatever his name is, the teacher that throws chalk at you for not paying attention) to make him nice.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#58738: Jun 26th 2020 at 12:13:51 PM

Kawakami being a Lady Drunk makes sense due to the hell that was her life post the death of the student she tutored at her previous school and the lengths the Takase's went to make her suffer.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58739: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:12:54 PM

https://gamebanana.com/wips/52056

This guy is working on a Yosuke Romance mod. I will actually use this when it's done.

Edited by VeryMelon on Jun 26th 2020 at 3:12:59 AM

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#58740: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:16:05 PM

Well that was fast. Props to the mod creator honestly.

So wait, was there actually a cut yosuke romance or was that just a rumor?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58741: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:18:21 PM

There are videos of the cut dialouge on youtube.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58742: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:18:57 PM

Some unused data left suggests it was to be a thing.

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Nouct over the front from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#58743: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:19:46 PM

https://tcrf.net/Persona_4/Unused_Voice_Clips/Social_Links

It's conjecture based on Yosuke SL voice clips Dummied Out in the game.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#58744: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:23:39 PM

[up] What the guy above said.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58745: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:46:13 PM

Well now I'm conflicted. I was all set to finally romance my angel Yukiko but this mod had to come out...

P 4 G did not really solve P3's problem, it just made a lateral move. Romancing every girl is not better or worse than every girl falling in love with you so Yu has to be stone cold and turn them down.

My poorYukiko.... Didn't she run away crying? Yumi is just as devastated, and after everything with her dad....

I love Yosuke, truly, but he isn't heartbroken at the end of his S Link so I might still go ahead with Yukiko.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jun 26th 2020 at 3:46:42 AM

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#58746: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:51:05 PM

Also, I just started the PC version of P4 Golden. ...Does Chie's new voice actress get any better? If not, I might just play with Japanese voices.

She does get a bit better as the game goes on, she gets far more comfortable in the role and the lines come out a lot better.

But she is far more consistent with Yui Horie 's performance than the old voice.

Edited by Memers on Jun 26th 2020 at 3:52:18 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#58747: Jun 26th 2020 at 3:53:40 PM

Golden is also Erin Fitzgerald's second time voicing the character, she wouldn't really settle into the role until the Anime adaptation.

By the time BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle came around, she's got it.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jun 26th 2020 at 6:54:50 AM

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58748: Jun 26th 2020 at 4:03:25 PM

Chie's voice seems to be one of those heavily YMMV thing. Some swear by OG Chie, others loathe her and how she sounds like she's 50.

I tend to agree with the latter group. Erin was a perfect Chie.

Dave Wittenberg was a better Teddie, though. Nobody talks about that though because it's Teddie. Although apparently JP Teddie really sucks.

Edited by Nikkolas on Jun 26th 2020 at 4:07:56 AM

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#58749: Jun 26th 2020 at 4:18:17 PM

JP teddie was supposed to emulate the OG actress of Doraemon without actually getting said Actress. Even funnier, his JP voice Actor also voiced Ranma Saotome and Inuyasha.

Something Danganronpa got right by actually getting both Doraemon's older actress (Before she was diagnosed with Dimentia) and his current one instead.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Jun 26th 2020 at 7:21:00 AM

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deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#58750: Jun 26th 2020 at 4:22:37 PM

Yeah, Erin definitely got better the longer she did it, I remember being rather put off when I first played Golden due to how poor I thought her first few scenes were.


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